2020 US Elections

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Bigga said:
How about focusing on what Pelosi's actions are.

She affects things. I don't as you lot are quick to point out.

Why do you not have an opinion on what she's doing?
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The last episode of spitting image was a very astute lampoon of her trying to be all things to everyone whilst trying to keep power.
 
I honestly find it hard to get my head around how any country that is so proud of it’s standing as a beacon of justice and democracy actually operates in reality.
The visuals of lines of people queuing for half a day to get to vote.
One drop off point per county?
Power lines being accidentally cut to polling centres, etc. etc.

The electing of a SC judge being played out on tv exposing just how money buys the legal system.

How come if the election is on the 3rd of November, people are queuing up to vote three weeks in advance anyway. I get it that people don’t trust the postal system to handle it and want to drop them in person, but why is the system like this anywAy? Genuine question.

Over here, a date is picked. Every area has a polling station and it stays open all day, up to 9 or 10pm.
You turn up with your valid voting card or if you didn’t receive one, you can present valid ID and as long as you are on the registrar, you can vote. The electoral official crosses you off the registrar list and gives you a voting slip.
Therefore nobody can vote twice.

It’s simple and effective and nobody is queuing for hours. You’re in and out before or after work, if that suits.

I don’t see how the current system in America is so difficult although I do admire anyone who is going through the queuing to exercise their democratic right.
They obviously see the importance of it.

I think in the age of social media, and 24 hour media coverage and cameras basically everywhere, America having this played out in front of the world is frankly embarrassing. Democracy or the lack of it is not coming across very well.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I honestly find it hard to get my head around how any country that is so proud of it’s standing as a beacon of justice and democracy actually operates in reality.
The visuals of lines of people queuing for half a day to get to vote.
One drop off point per county?
Power lines being accidentally cut to polling centres, etc. etc.

The electing of a SC judge being played out on tv exposing just how money buys the legal system.

How come if the election is on the 3rd of November, people are queuing up to vote three weeks in advance anyway. I get it that people don’t trust the postal system to handle it and want to drop them in person, but why is the system like this anywAy? Genuine question.

Over here, a date is picked. Every area has a polling station and it stays open all day, up to 9 or 10pm.
You turn up with your valid voting card or if you didn’t receive one, you can present valid ID and as long as you are on the registrar, you can vote. The electoral official crosses you off the registrar list and gives you a voting slip.
Therefore nobody can vote twice.

It’s simple and effective and nobody is queuing for hours. You’re in and out before or after work, if that suits.

I don’t see how the current system in America is so difficult although I do admire anyone who is going through the queuing to exercise their democratic right.
They obviously see the importance of it.

I think in the age of social media, and 24 hour media coverage and cameras basically everywhere, America having this played out in front of the world is frankly embarrassing. Democracy or the lack of it is not coming across very well.
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I look at it as a 3rd world county with money, I’ve worked with them over the years and there’s no doubt there are clever people over there, but the general standards of education seem very, I’m going to say insular for want of a better word.
They believe evangelicals ffs
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
How come if the election is on the 3rd of November, people are queuing up to vote three weeks in advance anyway. I get it that people don’t trust the postal system to handle it and want to drop them in person, but why is the system like this anywAy? Genuine question.
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Voter suppression and gerrymandering is about the only way Republicans can win elections anymore, so they excel at it! Throw in voter intimidation, and you have the Autocrat’s Trifecta!

People in the lines are waiting to vote early IN PERSON AT A VOTING MACHINE. We do not have a national holiday to vote and if everyone (130,000,000 people voted in 2016) were forced to vote on one day it couldn’t happen! On my ballot alone, I expect there to be 50-70 elections, for things from President to Member of the Water Reclamation District, not to mention there is even 1 very significant State Constitutional Amendment on the ballot this year.

My early voting starts on Monday! We may well get there before the doors open!

In Texarse, early voting started today and 1 million people cast votes! 15 million early votes already nationwide, and it literally started this week!

The level of state and local chicanery is disgusting, esp in Texas, where a Republican Governor removed all but ONE MAIL DROP OFF LOCATION PER COUNTY, and the Texarse State Supreme Court upheld it! That means some people out in the country would have to drive up to 50 miles to drop their non-in-person ballot in an Election Drop Box!

In Palm Springs, CA, Republicans have placed their own COMPLETELY ILLEGAL DROP BOXES IN REPUBLICAN AREAS, but the Dems are too pussy to simply remove them!

Not sure if you can access US Netflix (haha!) but check out “EXPLAINED: Whose vote counts.” It’ll open your eyes to the high degree of cuntery that voters, esp poor and black or simply Democratic, voters have to put up with in the so-called “heart of democracy” (where we don’t elect our president by democratic vote at all!!!).

For instance, for Biden to win the Presidency, he will probably need to win the popular vote by 5,000,000 or more, depending on where those votes are, because we are still using the voting system intended for the white slave and land owners from back in the day! It’s a fucking joke and GREATLY EXAGGERATES THE POWER OF LARGE RURAL STATES WITH VERY LOW POPULATION DENSITY!

So, vote early....and, in Chicago, vote often!
 
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Are these queues on just the first day of early voting? If there are 20 days allowed to vote early, going on the 10th day will find shorter queues?

Where machines are used, does anyone know how the votes are going? (Does anywhere count hard copy ballots as they go, or are they only counted with the in-person votes on election day?) Nearly half the votes could be cast this year before election day.
 
Vic said:
Are these queues on just the first day of early voting? If there are 20 days allowed to vote early, going on the 10th day will find shorter queues?

Where machines are used, does anyone know how the votes are going? (Does anywhere count hard copy ballots as they go, or are they only counted with the in-person votes on election day?) Nearly half the votes could be cast this year before election day.
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Did Florida ever fix their "hanging chad" problem? Really don't want anything like that again but reckon we're in for similar.
 
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