2020 US Elections

[Gabriel]

Trump’s choice of tense and verb form, particularly when speaking off the cuff, had more the taste of sour grapes than champagne. Fascinating times.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Or 2-1 down with five mins to go you mean?

False hope in this scenario by the looks of it. Anyone know exactly how far ahead Trump is in the states I mentioned prior to the mail votes being counted?

 

[M18CTID]

Biden’s odds are shortening. Was 9/5 and 2/1 a short while ago, depending on the bookie. Now 6/4 and 13/8

 

[SWP's back]

Even Fox News feeling the need to explain why the counts are slow in the swing states:

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

I think Biden has taken all 4 points in Maine

 

[SWP's back]

False hope in this scenario by the looks of it. Anyone know exactly how far ahead Trump is in the states I mentioned prior to the mail votes being counted?

No where near enough far enough ahead with the amount or urban and postal votes to go.

 

[Chippy_boy]

This does raise the obvious question in that have we been so obsessed about Trump that we've ignored the fact that there's always going to be a huge demographic that will always vote with their wallet, regardless of leader?

Is that not true everywhere? I'd say it's true of most people and most if not all countries actually.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Parts of Pennsylvania have announced no more results until morning. So we can all log off for a few hours.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The whole reason there is a 2 month lame duck period is because it takes time to count all the votes

Indeed, however it is Farage so logic and truth are not going to present in large measure.

 

[SWP's back]

Biden’s odds are shortening. Was 9/5 and 2/1 a short while ago, depending on the bookie. Now 6/4 and 13/8

Probably the professional gamblers and/or people understanding what is still to be counted lumping on.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

False hope in this scenario by the looks of it. Anyone know exactly how far ahead Trump is in the states I mentioned prior to the mail votes being counted?

Not really, things can swing quite quickly if a district very pro-Biden or pro-Trump gets added in. NC & GA are still not won by Trump yet, even if they eventually are it shows how the increase in postal votes is delaying states being called.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Parts of Pennsylvania have announced no more results until morning. So we can all log off for a few hours.

We need to find out Michigan, Georgia and Wisconsin really. Pennsylvania may not even matter

 

[SWP's back]

Penn Gov.:

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Regardless of whether this election returns a Trump presidency, Democrats must learn why it was ever close. Not just that the vote went along the lines of education or race, but why.



I think that we know those people exist. We call them Tories over here and there's quite a few of them ;) Whether those people are accurately accounted for in polling though, perhaps not?

One explanation I've heard (might be bollocks) is that tax cuts for the rich / poor don't have the effect on voting they would here in electoral terms. Essentially poor people in the US see taxing the rich as taking money from them when they in turn become rich, as there is a general belief that at some point they will 'make it'.

 

[SWP's back]

At least we can put to bed the view that Trump is no different from those that went before him:

 

[SWP's back]

One explanation I've heard (might be bollocks) is that tax cuts for the rich / poor don't have the effect on voting they would here in electoral terms. Essentially poor people in the US see taxing the rich as taking money from them when they in turn become rich, as there is a general belief that at some point they will 'make it'.

The American Dream,

 

[roubaixtuesday]

We need to find out Michigan, Georgia and Wisconsin really. Pennsylvania may not even matter

If I have the maths right, Pa alone would win it for Biden. Is that right?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Probably the professional gamblers and/or people understanding what is still to be counted lumping on.

yep, and a tipping point somewhere, like maybe news in Maine of that 1 vote coming out.

 

[Bigga]

Wow.

They are given Biden a slapping over his strategy.

I've been extremely critical of TYT of late as they abandoned their principles. Cenk, essentially, even got into Anna's head with the "any Blue will do" shit.

A lot like the dummies on this thread.

Jimmy Dore and others has had his finger on the pulse of the working class, so far.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

If I have the maths right, Pa alone would win it for Biden. Is that right?

No, he would need one of Georgia, Michigan or Wisconsin as well