2020 US Elections

[Bigga]

But early for revisionist (fanciful) history, don’t you think?!

Could you let him warm his seat and get his feet under the desk first, before rewriting 2008-2016 and then foretelling 2021-2024!

Mmm, I say 'failed policies' knowing the huge amount of people in phone-ins online and articles written to support the point. I thought the Orange Gimp's reign would also be testament to that.

I'm also a doom and gloom merchant.

Don't take my power away from me!!

 

[domalino]

Why? (genuine question)

Historically third party voters are more likely to vote Democrat than Republican when the third party choice is taken away.

They have momentum, Georgia will go to Biden which energises a base that's seen how important their votes are, while Republicans will be deflated following a loss.

No one knows how many Trump fans will be motivated to vote for the establishment GOP now Trump is out of there, but it's definitely not going to be 100%.

The Democrats will have a positive message, that they can actually do things and pass bills to help Georgians, while the Republican message is "lets obstruct everything".

Also Atlanta was one of the places hit hardest by the USPS and their "missing ballots". That isn't going to happen again.

 

[SebastianBlue]

And give him an umbrella to hold?

Switch his car to a monster truck and I think we’ve just devised a way of imprisoning him without him even knowing, as he would never leave the tarmac without help.

 

[oakiecokie]

Man, I could have made a killing two days ago when I was talking about Biden winning in Pennsylvania and Georgie. They were big odds!

Lets hope that that word doesn`t come home to roost after the final votes in those two States. ;)

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Is there any truth in the story of something like 27% of the mail in vote in South Florida not having made it through the USPS on time?

Heard the story a couple of days ago but nothing since.

Yes - i heard the same that they essentially held it back presumably to post mark it after election day. Should be easy to investigate so we will no doubt find out.

 

[babyape]

Yes - i heard the same that they essentially held it back presumably to post mark it after election day. Should be easy to investigate so we will no doubt find out.

Would be funny if the only evidence of corruption Trump is claiming was this, and it was investigated and flipped Florida to Biden. The Trump meltdown would be apocalyptic..

 

[Bigga]

I don’t know how they’ll handle it either, and will watch with far more interest after the last 4 years and especially this year.

I think the Dems will have to be mindful that the margins in so many states were far too tight considering what they were up against. You would think Trump should be obliterated after his performance but the message coming out of all this is, the Dems cannot ignore the black working class vote that got them over the line in so many cities and urban areas. That vote is a loan.

I think they are quite aware that it is the very people who are worse let down by democracy that have made sure that democracy is upheld in America, by going to great lengths to get their vote registered.

Also the Dems cannot ignore the vast swathes of rural Red counties and states that make it even possible for Trump to compete.

They are not a shoe-in in any election and it’ll be as interesting to see how they react to this result as much as the GOP.

I agree with every word.

it seems a bit weird to me that despite a huge amount of States having toss ups before moving in a direction, there's a winner takes all situation in the end.

But, that tends to hide the numbers and why I don't believe in the 'Blue Wave' aspect people have purred about.

It just shows a lack of reality about the situation.

 

[bluemoon32]

 

[SebastianBlue]

Is there any truth in the story of something like 27% of the mail in vote in South Florida not having made it through the USPS on time?

Heard the story a couple of days ago but nothing since.

Yes - i heard the same that they essentially held it back presumably to post mark it after election day. Should be easy to investigate so we will no doubt find out.

Yes, and DeJoy and co ignored a court order to sweep their facilities for more Mail-in ballots that were not delivered so they could be collected and assessed for validity (whether they could be counted under law).

It was what I was referring to in my earlier post when I said it was the “actual mail-in ballot fraud” and why it skews FL demo metrics quite substantially. Depending on how the post-election investigations go, we may never really know the full extent of DeJoy’s interference.

 

[BlueHammer85]

So, I have no idea what you mean by Biden will 'calm it down'.

Well in the last 4 years we've had Californian protests , May Day protests for Workers rights, Charlottesville Unite rally in which Trump did not denounce the White Supremacists , St Louis protests which went on for weeks when the police officer was found not guilty of murder in the shooting death of Anthony Smith, Memphis Riot for the shooting of Branden Webber, New York FTP protests and then of course George Floyd and Riots all over the country and the rise of the BLM movement all of which Trump's rhetoric has made things even more volatile, more hostile and more fractured - he has purposely split the nation for his own gain.

Biden will not try and go down that road, he will try his best to unite the nation. he might fail, but at least he will try.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Yes - i heard the same that they essentially held it back presumably to post mark it after election day. Should be easy to investigate so we will no doubt find out.

Well it would explain why Biden vote in Dade was below expected considering he actually did well elsewhere comparing like with like. ie Clinton in 2016.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Well, without refined composite data, I can’t even begin to try answer your question. And even then any analysis (by anyone) is just going to be a highly educated guess. Though, I obviously do think we should try to make ‘good’ guesses.

But I will say that I don’t think the same ‘socialist’ rhetoric and fear-mongering (on both sides, mind) was used in those previous cycles.

To me, this election saw a distinct shift to 50s style ‘pinko/red scare’ tactics, mostly from the Trump/Republican side, which were not really present in 2016 or the recent previous elections. It was at toxic levels at various times, framed around hyperbolic assertions that the democrats would destroy private property rights, nationalise everything, and control all aspects of an American’s life. This was not just “Obama is gonna take your guns”. This was total societal and economic collapse of the nation. The dial was turned up to 11. It even caused more ferocious infighting within the Democratic Party than seen in 2016. And I do think it was designed, in part, to appeal to the Latinx community who have had horrific direct/indirect experiences with failed socialist states. Whether it actually worked remains to be seen.

I really don’t think previous elections compare.

Spot on. I work with a Trumpton fanatic who cannot separate "socialism" with "communism"

 

[domalino]

Biden is also looking to be the 'law and order' president

Bullshit alert!!

 

[bobmcfc]

 

[domalino]

How about this for a determining factor, in the Senate Runoffs - Biden and Harris have made a campaign promise to decriminalise marijuana and expunge non-violent marijuana convictions.


Georgia has the 6th highest number of possession only marijuana arrests in the States - Over 35,000 a year.

 

[kaz7]

Good afternoon

It is looking good today so far

Can we get rid of our trump light berk as well

 

[kaz7]

He should be arrested for incitement to violence

 

[babyape]

He's just been kicked off twitter for this. Trump will be kicked off too once he's out of the WH

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Would be funny if the only evidence of corruption Trump is claiming was this, and it was investigated and flipped Florida to Biden. The Trump meltdown would be apocalyptic..

And of course you have to get Bill Barr out of the DoJ to investigate it - so expect a slow burn.

That said if you voted by post 2 weeks ago and your ballot along with 100k others turns out to have been processed the day after it was valid and following a court order to sweep the mail rooms that was ignored it looks fairy ominous without digging any further. It would be crazy if low level postal workers did sabotage the mail in vote (maybe hoping that when Trump is re-lected he will protect them), serious charges if its proven. Then the question would be who was behind the effort - do any of them flip on someone up the chain? And how do you rectify it?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the White House atm. He must be in so much pain.