2020 US Elections

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FogBlueInSanFran said:
There is always the risk of the unhinged anal pustule going into a rage and defecating everywhere and anywhere in the White House. But is doing so going to get him any more money? That's what it's all about now -- how much money can I scrabble together to protect myself when this is over? That's the reason to continue to perpetuate the "I won" myth, to retweet Randy Quaid, and to --inevitably -- claim his PAC will focus solely on fighting election fraud while supporting ballot security, voter ID, etc. etc. It's a great money-raising issue for him; it will become his cause celebre. It's awesome because he can claim he actually won, claim those against him are doing so because they want to perpetuate fraud, go down as a "hero" as a supporter of free an fair elections, claim when the legal aspects come to roost that he's being railroaded for "speaking out" (a better rationale than "no one likes me " which makes him look like the bitch he is).
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I don’t disagree with any of that. I have said as much, and you and I have discussed and agreed about this before.

I just don’t think there is any reason to believe the Trump camp and Republican cronies won’t continue to burn things down on the way out — they’re already doing it, as referenced in several of my previous posts — whilst the Trump syndicate continue to perpetuate the myth of “the election was stolen!”

We know his followers. We know his collaborators. The money available (what little there will actually be left to fleece by February) will not be impacted by them doing both. They can — and I think will — do both.

If anything, I honestly reckon he’ll get *more* money if he demos the house as he leaves because his followers will love it, shouting that he is continuing to “own the libs” who “stole the election from him” (not realising that they live in the house along with the “libs”). And it’s not like it will make a material difference to the immense criminal peril he is already in. Most of it will be done independently of him, anyway, and he’ll take credit for the bits that are the least damaging to him and most beneficial to his grifting, as you alluded to.

Edit: the gif below represents me shouting at the birds, just to be clear. ;-)

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kaz7 said:
I had read about one prisoner executed the other day , i didnt realise they were on a mission

Scott Peterson please
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Barr especially appears to be on a mission.

This is where his empowered zealots begin to act independently and even more viciously (if that were possible).
 
Gaudion M said:
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The source of that conspiracy theory seems to be a twitter post from 2017 that claimed Trump's casino was facilitating money laundering for Russian Oligarchs, which would be quite hard to have done at that point because the rise of the oligarchs happened in the 1990s under Yeltsin.

Seems it was a manufacturing fault that wasn't picked up by quality control.

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AS THE HELICOPTER WAS IN CRUISE FLT AT AN ALT OF 2200' MSL, A PORTION OF ONE OF THE MAIN ROTOR BLADES SEPARATED. THE SUBSEQUENT IMBALANCE RESULTED IN SEPARATION OF THE TRANSMISSION & MAIN...
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kaz7 said:
How much money have his deluded supporters given him to fight the election result , even a dollar each makes 70m , he must be funneling it into his private accounts ?
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They blew through $1.7bn on the campaign. They’ve had about $5m on the legal challenges.
 
We are truly in the “set all of the options to ‘bonkers’” ancestor simulation.

 
Half of me wants Donald Trump not to be prosecuted following the Biden's inauguration next January; but the other half wants him to spend the rest of his life in jail.
 
DrBlueBob said:
So which half of you is completely fucked?
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Both halves - for the sake of the United States - and to initiate any hope of healing - judicial proceedings against Trump are almost certain to further divide the country. So let him be.

At the same time, if Trump has committed crimes (I believe he probably has) - half of me, wants to see him punished to the full extent of the law. I detest Trump with every fibre of my being.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
Both halves - for the sake of the United States - and to initiate any hope of healing - judicial proceedings against Trump are almost certain to further divide the country. So let him be.

At the same time, if Trump has committed crimes (I believe he probably has) - half of me, wants to see him punished to the full extent of the law. I detest Trump with every fibre of my being.
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There are already judicial proceedings against Trump, both civil and criminal. Quite a few, actually, with more likely to come based on various comments and hints over the past year or so.

And, while I understand that they will be divisive, everything is these days; not prosecuting him would be equally divisive.

I would also assert that sparing him prosecution simply because he is a public figure with a strong, potentially violent following, in the face of his and his camp’s egregious violations of the law, constitution, and human rights over the last few years (and well before he even got in to office), is an extremely dangerous precedent to set. Not to mention that will likely only serve to embolden him, his remaining cronies, and his followers.

We shouldn’t mistake appeasement for reconciliation.
 
BlueMoonFromAcrossThePond said:
Both halves - for the sake of the United States - and to initiate any hope of healing - judicial proceedings against Trump are almost certain to further divide the country. So let him be.

At the same time, if Trump has committed crimes (I believe he probably has) - half of me, wants to see him punished to the full extent of the law. I detest Trump with every fibre of my being.
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Aw! I wasn't expecting the serious response> :-)
 
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