25th could be done in a half hour. And then Trump can declare he’s fit — but he still has no power. Then the cabinet revotes. If he’s still deemed unfit, it goes to the House/Senate, who have two days to start debate, which can last for up to 21 days. All this time, Trump is out of power. That’s enough to remove him until Inauguration, when it becomes moot.
The idea of a President being able to pardon himself offends the very notion of democracy.Not every prominent legal analyst, constitutional scholar, or supreme court commentator believe the SC would rule in favour of presidential power in the event of a “blank check” self-pardon, even with their current political/ideological leanings (especially given they have one of the easiest outs available: no prevailing precedent).
I have mused publicly that I worry more about their political leanings than their ideological in that situation, personally, and even I am not sure they would based on various analyses I have read over the past year or so (particularly after yesterday’s events). It really seems to be a six of one, half a dozen of the other situation.
But I think we all agree we are likely about to find out soon enough.
And it still won’t save him from the mountains of non-federal litigation already in progress and to come.
A Smorgasbord of Views on Self-Pardoning
There is no obvious right answer on the validity of self-pardons, and if Trump becomes the first president to pardon himself, a court is unlikely to provide an answer.www.lawfareblog.com
Why a Self-Pardon Is Not Constitutional
The 2020 election results are in. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. is the President-Elect of the United States of America. Sometime before January 20, 2021, Donald Trump will recognize the inevitable (even if he may never publicly admit it) and prepare to leave the White House. Given that his tenure in...www.justsecurity.org
Yes, Donald Trump can pardon himself, but it would be a disastrous idea
A president can pardon anyone — even himself — but that doesn't stop impeachment. Even Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani gets that.www.usatoday.com
...I know this, which is why I agreed it was unlikely and was (and still am) talking about impeachment and removal and making the point that time is not the constraint and it is the best remedy because it disqualifies him from running again (even from a prison cell, which he could technically do).
Wholeheartedly agree.
I’m surprisingly quick off the mark.
Pence is tainted with both moderate Republicans and Trump's base. He's about as welcome as a wet fart 5 miles from the nearest toilet.
Don’t think so, but not that arsed if I am.
Steady on, beating me in a foot race or fisticuffs is no real accomplishment these days. ;-)
Now why am I not surprised to read that....?
You also won't be surprised to hear he's broken the terms of that agreement numerous times.
Ah. Well, there’s a lot of debris floating around, to paraphrase Apollo 13. Thank you.
I concur. He never had a prayer before; he can’t even find the hymnal now.
Worst best gif Seb.I often need one of those these days, unfortunately.
And, regarding your second line...
