2022 World Cup Discussion

jimharri said:
Beglin. Also, there's quite a few on here, of an older vintage, who would disagree with you on Hill. He once did a hatchet job on, IIRC, Brian Kidd (when he was playing for us) on MOTD.
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After a game against Arsenal IIRC, where they'd been kicking lumps out of us but Hill chose to highlight an incident involving Kiddo and spent what seemed like an age banging on about it.
 
Bill Walker said:
So you want to refuse/knock back billions of pounds worth of contracts involving thousands of UK jobs and livelihoods (and probably let the French get it) because of their laws on homosexuality ?

How do you feel about buying Middle eastern oil ?
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No I wouldn’t want to do any of those things but there is a bucket load of false equivalence going on when people say we should attack Qatar over the football but ignore everything else. Either you accept that the world is made up of disparate populations, with different beliefs and at different stages of evolution, or you don’t. If you don’t, and that is a perfectly understandable train of thought, surely you can’t be selective about that?
Either you say the Qataris are complete c**ts and we will have nothing to do with them or, you crack on, engage with them and try to bring them round to your way of thinking?
Finally, if you’re the ‘media’ and Qatar is such an horrific place, don’t go and present from the studio at home where you fully entitled to explain why you’re taking that stance. Or be like Gary Neville and complain bitterly about everything, go along to act as a pundit not only for the domestic channels but for the Qatar media channel BEIN sports as well!
 
Elbow beards said:
Going on about sportwashing on ITV now. fuck me every fucking match is like a panarama investigation now.If they were so serious,why have they sent hundreds of employees over there to cover it all. Fucking hypocrites.
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But it was suggested that sports washing might not be all its cracked up to be and can back fire. So far Qatar is receiving bad publicity only. Could there be postive changes in Qatar as a consequence of this bad publicity. Regime washing?
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
No I wouldn’t want to do any of those things but there is a bucket load of false equivalence going on when people say we should attack Qatar over the football but ignore everything else. Either you accept that the world is made up of disparate populations, with different beliefs and at different stages of evolution, or you don’t. If you don’t, and that is a perfectly understandable train of thought, surely you can’t be selective about that?
Either you say the Qataris are complete c**ts and we will have nothing to do with them or, you crack on, engage with them and try to bring them round to your way of thinking?
Finally, if you’re the ‘media’ and Qatar is such an horrific place, don’t go and present from the studio at home where you fully entitled to explain why you’re taking that stance. Or be like Gary Neville and complain bitterly about everything, go along to act as a pundit not only for the domestic channels but for the Qatar media channel BEIN sports as well!
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On the Neville thing, he’s on Bein English. The locals all watch their own Arabic version with different guests (often Wenger). Bein English is shown all over the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa (and I believe it was shown in Australasia but not sure if it still is).
 
BobbyJohnstone said:
Clive Tyldsley has to be the worst of the worst. Barry Davies was particularly bad too. I don’t see why we need commentary, I know what I’m seeing and most of them offer zero insight whatsoever. Give me stadium noise only.
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Be great if you had the choice of stadium noise only
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Or be like Gary Neville and complain bitterly about everything, go along to act as a pundit not only for the domestic channels but for the Qatar media channel BEIN sports as well!
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I wonder how many times he's brought up human rights on that channel, after claiming on HIGNFY that his reason for going was to to 'highlight these issues.'
 
I didn't watch the Wales game, but if the commentary was anything like the Euros, I'm glad about that. They moan about the England bias, but I've never seen any English pundit deliver the level of one-sided cheerleading that the Robbie Savage did last time out.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
But it was suggested that sports washing might not be all its cracked up to be and can back fire. So far Qatar is receiving bad publicity only. Could there be postive changes in Qatar as a consequence of this bad publicity. Regime washing?
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Very much doubt it once the World Cup ends we won’t here much about that country!

Unless?!! They buy Liverpool then sport washing be wiped from the earth
 
Refs being instructed to add more stoppage time to try and stop time wasting.

www.bbc.co.uk

World Cup 2022: Why is there so much stoppage time being added on?

The five matches at the World Cup so far have had much more stoppage time added on at the end of games than usual, but why?
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Chairman of Fifa's referees committee Pierluigi Collina confirmed last week that fourth officials had been instructed to keep track of time lost during the game during the tournament in Qatar, something they had also tried to do at the previous World Cup in Russia in 2018.

"In Russia, we tried to be more accurate in compensating for time lost during games and that's why you saw six, seven or even eight minutes added on," he told reporters at a pre-tournament briefing.

"Think about it: if you have three goals in a half, you'll probably lose four or five minutes in total to celebrations and the restart."
 
Protein Junkie said:
I don’t like any pundit going over the Top tbh.
It’s Wales first World Cup since 58 so forgive a small amount of bluster. However It is cringeworthy at best although we do often hear it with England too.
Anyone supporting a team v Wales because “After all they hate the English” is possibly aligning to the most banal sweeping statement imaginable.
And finally we do not shag sheep






Often.
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I'm all for it. Soak it up and bask in the fact Wales are in the World Cup. Got to get carried away and hype it up. The manager got it wrong initially but changed things and they grafted to get the draw - could have won that game if it was right from the start. If you are in the World Cup you have to get carried away. England fans know we're very unlikely to win it, but after yesterday's win it's coming home!
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
I'm not a fan of so many substitutes in the WC. It breaks up the rhythm of the game.

Also what's up with all that added time?
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I think they've made a collective decision to ensure each game has 45 minutes of game time. So subs, VAR calls, injuries will all take time out of the game and they've decided that they'll play it on. The England game was ridiculous, but if it had have been 0-0 at 45 mins after only 31 mins of actual game time, we'd have been berating the officials for not adding on enough time.
 
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