24 Hours In Police Custody

[Kompany Car]

We both deal with all kinds in society though, mate. Yours in you watering holes and ours via churches and our front door.

I don’t get involved in the religious side of things, but I often take people to their local pay point to put money on their gas and electric whilst using my aging knowledge of the benefit system to work out what they can apply for whilst their UC has been suspended, which it can be for minute reasons these days. There aren’t “targets” for DWP staff to achieve, but they are rewarded if they suspend a certain number per week.

There are less “scrotes” where we are now, but having lived in Gorton for 4 years, we got to know quite a few and they ranged from utter dicks who didn’t give a shit about anybody or anything to those that turned to crime to exist. We don’t have a magic wand, so all we can do is chat and listen to them and try to direct them to a more lawful existence. Our success rate will be nowhere near 100%, but every one we change helps, right?

A lot don’t seem to have a sense of purpose. If we could give them that, with a way to earn their way through life, feeling valued, we’d have a lot less crime.

How we do that, I don’t know, but there are examples where someone respected in the community steps up and becomes the role model for these people.

This issue for many starts in the education system. I’m a strong advocate of allowing less academic kids to learn vocational qualifications at an early age. Beyond simple arithmetic and the ability to communicate, there is little more that you need for many careers, although most employers would have you believe otherwise.

There is far too much focus on driving everyone down the A levels, University route and the GCSEs are set up accordingly. Having an earlier entry into skilled paid work might just deter some kids getting involved in crime and give them a career which pays a decent wage.

 

[Eds]

Go fund me up to £137k

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

This issue for many starts in the education system. I’m a strong advocate of allowing less academic kids to learn vocational qualifications at an early age. Beyond simple arithmetic and the ability to communicate, there is little more that you need for many careers, although most employers would have you believe otherwise.

There is far too much focus on driving everyone down the A levels, University route and the GCSEs are set up accordingly. Having an earlier entry into skilled paid work might just deter some kids getting involved in crime and give them a career which pays a decent wage.

I’d go slightly further and teach everyone to cook cheaply and budget too. Life skills rather than the stuff you say. That’s extra and unnecessary for most.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Go fund me up to £137k

Interesting. Not sure what the protocol is there. The purpose of that fund was (iirc) to cover his legal fees. They were £50k. Can he do as he wishes with the surplus? Can’t be the first time this has happened.

£50k seems a bit steep. Wasn’t a complicated case or lengthy trial, I’ll expect. Don’t think he’ll have had a silk, otherwise it would have been referenced. Think he’s overpaid there.

Think he’s (on the face of it) had shit representation too. If he’d pleaded guilty there’s no way he’d have gone to prison. Meant he could have controlled the narrative of the offending a little. That trial should definitely have cracked. That’s the problem with paying privately. Trials are very lucrative. Naughty, if true. Or maybe he wasn’t for cracking tbf.

Either way, he’s gambled and lost spectacularly.

 

[domalino]

Go fund me up to £137k

Going straight into the pockets of the 2 burglars he seriously injured…and their lawyers,

 

[domalino]

Interesting. Not sure what the protocol is there. The purpose of that fund was (iirc) to cover his legal fees. They were £50k. Can he do as he wishes with the surplus? Can’t be the first time this has happened.

£50k seems a bit steep. Wasn’t a complicated case or lengthy trial, I’ll expect. Don’t think he’ll have had a silk, otherwise it would have been referenced. Think he’s overpaid there.

Think he’s (on the face of it) had shit representation too. If he’d pleaded guilty there’s no way he’d have gone to prison. Meant he could have controlled the narrative of the offending a little. That trial should definitely have cracked. Thats the problem with paying privately. Trials are very lucrative. Naughty, if true.

He’s being sued now, a personal injury claim? Originally it was against his car insurers which sounded unlikely, but now he’s got money I’m sure they’ll go after him directly.

Anyway that upcoming legal fight was what the money was supposedly for, but there’s no regulation, you’re just donating it to him and assuming he’ll use it on legal fees.

 

[idahoblues]

@idahoblues has a flashlight next to his bed.
So he can see which gun to get out of his bedside cabinet

Ni##a Please

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Judge could have invited him to request a Goodyear indication, which we wouldn’t know about. That could have been used to indicate a suspended sentence if he pleaded guilty. If he declined that invitation, or rejected what was indicated, the Judge was entitled to send him to prison.

Indication Of Sentence | Goodyear Indication

John Veale of Kangs Solicitors explains the nature of this procedure.

www.kangssolicitors.co.uk

There’s too much we don’t know, to understand and be sure this sentence was correct.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

He’s being sued now, a personal injury claim? Originally it was against his car insurers which sounded unlikely, but now he’s got money I’m sure they’ll go after him directly.

Anyway that upcoming legal fight was what the money was supposedly for, but there’s no regulation, you’re just donating it to him and assuming he’ll use it on legal fees.

Good point about the personal injury claim. A criminal conviction is an irributtable fact in civil proceedings. Like I said the other day, if the judge can find volenti on the facts, then he or she will. Not good for public confidence in the justice system if these two win a big payout.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Good point about the personal injury claim. A criminal conviction is an irributtable fact in civil proceedings. Like I said the other day, if the judge can find volenti on the facts, then he or she will. Not good for public confidence in the justice system if these two win a big payout.

I'd suggest the victims of their previous crimes take out a counter claim against any monies they receive to compensate them for losses occurred.