24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

[TrentGrisham]

He had a poor game but his character is undeniable. He almost always seems to bounce back after a poor play looking full of confidence in his next touch of the ball.

 

[vanchi]

How many if you are sayimg he's not a left back? Are you bonkers? He played for RB there and the NT and now us, yes it's true his position will be centre back once he matures — with the performances he's turning in I doubt we'll get the chance to see him move centrally unless he improves 10 fold. Slow and ponderous with a couple of mistakes a game in him, not what we were sold as the best up amd coming defender I'm europe imho. I believe he will be fine eventually but he's so slow and ponderous I'd rather have Ake in.

are YOU bonkers? he didn’t play lb for leipzig, just a bit after he joined them. he didn’t play lb for 2 years before city.

his natural and primary position is cb, he will play whatever is asked of him without moaning and complaining though.

he will be switched to lb for our national team for the next two games because we only have 2 lbs, one is in meh form, the other one was dropped because of back to back disasterclasses in last two games. me on a couch with my kindle and a bottle of red wine would be a better solution on that pitch than that tree stump. so it’s joško at lb cause it’s an emergency, not cause he’s a bad cb ffs. none of our other cbs are as versatile, not even close.

he had an utterly horrible brain fart yesterday, he needs to do better.
i knew it was coming after that stat about him not causing an error leading to a goal bla bla was posted.

anyway, he’s responsible and to blame for his stupid errors, which position he plays or why city didn’t buy a “proper” lb - not his decisions.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

People are gonna say he can't play left back and that he's a centre half just because Carragher said so yesterday on commentary. Utter bollocks. Neville was calling him Maldini a couple of weeks ago FFS. Looks fine to me, just a brain fart for the goal, and carragher talking shit and people gobbling that shit up

 

[Phil1]

He’s been excellent. Yesterday he struggled a little and made a couple of errors. No big deal. Folk look far too deeply into things. I’ve no doubt he will go back to being the imperious player he has been so far when back from the international break.

 

[youngbob]

He’s been excellent. Yesterday he struggled a little and made a couple of errors. No big deal. Folk look far too deeply into things. I’ve no doubt he will go back to being the imperious player he has been so far when back from the international break.

Yeah this is it really. Has hit a bumpy patch of form but it's no biggie. Christ how many mistakes did Kompany have under his belt by the time he retired. It's an occupational hazard of being a defender. Everyone has brainfarts and bad moments.

 

[nellyonthewing]

He didn't get support from Doku or Grealish (as frequently happens to Ake) . Fast opponents running into the space around him exposed his lack of pace .

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Get him into his natural CB position

 

[Middedon]

After the mistake with the second goal he seemed to settle down. But in addition to being a bit unsettled, I do feel like the lack of control in the midfield was making it tough for all the defenders. Lots of fast breaks or almost fast breaks.

I think forums are a tough place for defenders. Because with a team this good, most goals are going to be from a mistake. Every game that one of them has a mistake, everyone is basically like “they’re terrible, Ake/Akanji/whomever is 100x better.” And then the next week one of them has a shocker and it’s the other way around.

I’ve seen a lot of comments about why we bought him. I assume because he’s 21. He may not be as good or consistent as Ake or Akanji or Laporte, but at some point you have to lower the age of the back line.

 

[Damanino]

I dont think he is great so far, pretty much is having the usual first season at City, like many others did with lots of mediocre and good performances not too many great ones, only to turn into a fantastic player from second season. some dont need it like Haaland, but the way, tempo we are playing will do this to many talented young players.

on poor ability (and experience) imo he is easier above where Stones, Ake, Akanji, Dias were at same age, no wonder for the price tag.

but he will need this season to be like 5/10 or 6/10 before it really clicks for him and delivers top top seasons...

 

[JTFactsPlz]

He didn't get support from Doku or Grealish (as frequently happens to Ake) . Fast opponents running into the space around him exposed his lack of pace .

He didn't get support from Doku. You can leave Grealish out of it. (Although I appreciate your usual tedious agenda against Jack is the reason you're dragging him into it here when Jack's defensive contribution is always 10x that of Doku. And to imply Jack doesn't frequently help out Ake is frankly ludicrous and laughable.)