24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

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HypnoticBlue said:
We all see different things, I think he’s a bit of a cart horse who can’t defend, and gets caught up the pitch way too often when he’s on the left, but has potential as a midfielder.
Certainly agree with the swap with Ake though.
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"a bit of a cart horse who can’t defend"

Are you new to this club?
 
A gripe for the three Gvardiol fans on this page. Listened to a City podcast this morning (why?, most of the time these leave me irritated). According to the hosts, Gvardiol apparently “still doesn’t get it” and “needs coaching.” They referenced Pep giving him instruction during and after the Newcastle game. He’s one of the youngest people on the team - why is the fact he needs coaching a negative?!? Meanwhile when Bobb, who’s only 18 mos younger, gets coaching it’s because “Pep realizes how important he is.” (And Bobb probably needs less coaching because he’s far more familiar with the system being an academy kid). The same thing happens to Doku. When he was playing well, it was all “look how young he is.” But after not playing as well, suddenly no mention that he might need some time to mature/grow into the team.
 
I think he's been an excellent signing and is already showing why he's so highly rated. He's not come in and performed consistently well defensively, but his future position simply has to be left centre back with the ability to slot into midfield. His technical ability and passing on the ball is fantastic. He's strong and has brilliant vision. Sometimes he's slightly caught out in the left back role, but when we're chopping and changing lineups and you are new to a league and a system it's inevitable to have shaky moments. There's nothing I see from him that can't be fixed and at 21 so much more to come.
 
Middedon said:
A gripe for the three Gvardiol fans on this page. Listened to a City podcast this morning (why?, most of the time these leave me irritated). According to the hosts, Gvardiol apparently “still doesn’t get it” and “needs coaching.” They referenced Pep giving him instruction during and after the Newcastle game. He’s one of the youngest people on the team - why is the fact he needs coaching a negative?!? Meanwhile when Bobb, who’s only 18 mos younger, gets coaching it’s because “Pep realizes how important he is.” (And Bobb probably needs less coaching because he’s far more familiar with the system being an academy kid). The same thing happens to Doku. When he was playing well, it was all “look how young he is.” But after not playing as well, suddenly no mention that he might need some time to mature/grow into the team.
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If they're right, I'll tell you what, when he does 'get it' fucking watch out.
 
Middedon said:
A gripe for the three Gvardiol fans on this page. Listened to a City podcast this morning (why?, most of the time these leave me irritated). According to the hosts, Gvardiol apparently “still doesn’t get it” and “needs coaching.” They referenced Pep giving him instruction during and after the Newcastle game. He’s one of the youngest people on the team - why is the fact he needs coaching a negative?!? Meanwhile when Bobb, who’s only 18 mos younger, gets coaching it’s because “Pep realizes how important he is.” (And Bobb probably needs less coaching because he’s far more familiar with the system being an academy kid). The same thing happens to Doku. When he was playing well, it was all “look how young he is.” But after not playing as well, suddenly no mention that he might need some time to mature/grow into the team.
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I said earlier, a 21 yr old playing in the best team in the world in his first season in the PL getting picked regularly by the world's best manager and our own fans are questioning his abilities.

Strange people on here, very strange
 
supercity88 said:
I think he's been an excellent signing and is already showing why he's so highly rated. He's not come in and performed consistently well defensively, but his future position simply has to be left centre back with the ability to slot into midfield. His technical ability and passing on the ball is fantastic. He's strong and has brilliant vision. Sometimes he's slightly caught out in the left back role, but when we're chopping and changing lineups and you are new to a league and a system it's inevitable to have shaky moments. There's nothing I see from him that can't be fixed and at 21 so much more to come.
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I can see his mistakes but I can see his quality also. I guess that comes with being 21 in your 1st season in one of the most demanding leagues in the world and under one if not thee most technically demanding manager in the world.
 
Keeper! said:
No problem, double retribution for the idiots questioning this outstandingly talented player.
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8-)
I agree
Also
Most our goals conceded are scored because we get caught up the field attacking with our defenders and midfield joining in. This also is one of the main reasons we dominate possession and have won more trophies in the last 10 plus years than any other team in the prem.
 
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