24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2024/25

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

He was absolute crap.

 

[miha22]

He was best City player Today by Sofascore. Interesting.

 

[WallyA]

He was best City player Today by Sofascore. Interesting.

Thats because of his chances created (2) as a defender, none of the other defenders made a chance.

He also successfully won all his ground duels.

Their goal is not considered an error by him (which I agree, maybe he is passive but be blocks the main angle leaving a tight shot which Ederson does poorly on).

 

[peter.evans]

That’s why you don’t play a CB as a LB

Yet another Guardiola genius idea, pay 80 odd million for a centre back and play him at left back. Almost as bad as Silva right wing and Lewis in centre mid. Absolute fuckin lunacy !

 

[ninjamonkey]

Gvardiol had a good game. I swear some people just see highlights and make snap judgements on those alone.

He was the one and only player who was actually passing through lines today, my memory might be failing me here but I'm sure he played the ball to both foden and savinho that put them in positions to actually do something, not his fault if they don't.

Some great defending from a set piece delivery. Even the goal he didn't do much wrong, he's forced him to go down the outside that's the hardest spot to score from.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

What's happening to all our defenders? Terrible form

 

[warringtonblue]

Gvardiol had a good game. I swear some people just see highlights and make snap judgements on those alone.

He was the one and only player who was actually passing through lines today, my memory might be failing me here but I'm sure he played the ball to both foden and savinho that put them in positions to actually do something, not his fault if they don't.

Some great defending from a set piece delivery. Even the goal he didn't do much wrong, he's forced him to go down the outside that's the hardest spot to score from.

Didn't do much wrong for the goal? he was fucking miles away from the goalscrorer when he picked the ball up from a 40 yard pass, get tighter and you can win a challenge there

 

[Mad_fer_it]

The problem with Gvardiol is that he can afford to drop as many clangers as he wants and still not get dropped because of poor squad depth. There is literally nobody putting pressure on his starting XI spot. So he always a nailed on starter. And it's cost us again today... Wank recruitment.

 

[The Norfolk Blue]

I haven’t forgiven him for the fvck up with Ortega in the Cup Final …. and I doubt I ever will.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Didn't do much wrong for the goal? he was fucking miles away from the goalscrorer when he picked the ball up from a 40 yard pass, get tighter and you can win a challenge there

Unless you havent watch us before you are surely aware that we basically play with a back 3 with a defender in midfield somewhere when in possession and so until we can regroup and set to a back 4 that back 3 has to be narrow and tight. Gvardiol was where he should be.

 

[warringtonblue]

Unless you havent watch us before you are surely aware that we basically play with a back 3 with a defender in midfield somewhere when in possession and so until we can regroup and set to a back 4 that back 3 has to be narrow and tight. Gvardiol was where he should be.

I've watched us for 50 fucking years but I know when someone is out of position to defend. Its pointless standing towards the centre if an attacker is outside and has 20 yards to himself

 

[stan bowles]

Anyone can make a mistake but at the next training session the coaching staff and Pep should be telling him what he should have done before the goal. If they don't, they're as much a part of the problem as he is.

 

[Tevez City]

@Dax777




Gave him space & time to do whatever he wants

 

[decmancity]

Could he have got closer, yes but that goal is on Ederson.

 

[ninjamonkey]

I've watched us for 50 fucking years but I know when someone is out of position to defend. Its pointless standing towards the centre if an attacker is outside and has 20 yards to himself

If you're saying he's out of position, then I'm not sure you do know. The furthest fullback will always tuck in, even with a flat back 4.

You're giving no appreciation to the pass, he's absolutely pinged a 40 yard ball out there, it was a superb pass that's given hudson-odoi the space not gvardiols positioning. If it's a standard floated ball over, gvardiol has an extra second or two to shift over and doku probably has time to get back too.

 

[warringtonblue]

If you're saying he's out of position, then I'm not sure you do know. The furthest fullback will always tuck in, even with a flat back 4.

You're giving no appreciation to the pass, he's absolutely pinged a 40 yard ball out there, it was a superb pass that's given hudson-odoi the space not gvardiols positioning. If it's a standard floated ball over, gvardiol has an extra second or two to shift over and doku probably has time to get back too.

He was allowed to make the pass only because he had acres of space to play the ball. I know our full backs tuck inside but its pretty pointless when attackers are outside you, as perfectly shown for todays winning goal.
Doku was probably too busy deliberating what part of the full backs anatomy he was going to hit with his next attempted cross

 

[Manchester_lalala]

He was at fault for the goal, I know Ederson should have saved it but Gvardiol shouldn’t be allowing their winger to have time to control the ball and then to run 25 yards into the box with it. Proper annoyed me, more than the shit attempt of a save.

This team doesn’t know how to dig deep and defend properly.

 

[richards30]

I think we’ve genuinely burnt him out this season. We signed the best young CB in Europe at time and played him LB. The fact that he made it work (with Pep coaching as well) is a credit to him but he’s been overplayed in a team that has lacked rhythm most of the season.

 

[Haaland94]

Thats because of his chances created (2) as a defender, none of the other defenders made a chance.

He also successfully won all his ground duels.

Their goal is not considered an error by him (which I agree, maybe he is passive but be blocks the main angle leaving a tight shot which Ederson does poorly on).

Gvardiol had a good game. I swear some people just see highlights and make snap judgements on those alone.

He was the one and only player who was actually passing through lines today, my memory might be failing me here but I'm sure he played the ball to both foden and savinho that put them in positions to actually do something, not his fault if they don't.

Some great defending from a set piece delivery. Even the goal he didn't do much wrong, he's forced him to go down the outside that's the hardest spot to score from.

Correct. We can't cherry pick on what he could have done or whatever. He did what he thought was best at the time, forced his man on the weaker side, and the Forrest player did well to score from a difficult angle. Questions over Ederson in this instance because he probably could have done much more.

Gvardiol has been our best performer this season, which maybe doesn't even say much this season, but he is at the bottom of our list of problems. He had some worse games as well, but generally speaking, he has done very well this season. We all know his quality.

 

[kippaxchris]

Lads I am sorry but this line of thought is just not working. Players aren't assigned positions at birth. he is a left back. he's been playing leftback for us for 2 years. That's his position. He's not "covering" at leftback. he is a leftback.

Yes but naturally he isn't a left back & it's clear to see, that's the point I was making.