24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2024/25

[Blue tiger]

I know I will get pelters, but for me he is our most overrated player. I know he scored a few goals towards the end of last season in the title run, but in the main he has been bang average. He can't defend to save his life, and before people say he his a CB and not a left back, he played CB a few times earlier in the season and was even worse there. He might be burnt out as some have suggested, however for the best part of 80m I'd have expected to see a lot more from him.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

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I know I will get pelters, but for me he is our most overrated play. I know he scored a few goals towards the end of last season in the title run, but in the main he has been bang average. He can't defend to save his life, and before people say he his a CB and not a left back, he played CB a few times earlier in the season and was even worse there. He might be burnt out as some have suggested, however for the best part of 80m I'd have expected to see a lot more from him.

I agree. He has been utter crap most of this season, was involved in that shambolic goal in the cup final last season too and yet was second in the vote for our best player so far this season. Shows how shit the rest of them have been. How slow was he today getting to their player and then letting him run and run. Abysmal defending.

 

[Sibierskii]

I think we’ve genuinely burnt him out this season. We signed the best young CB in Europe at time and played him LB. The fact that he made it work (with Pep coaching as well) is a credit to him but he’s been overplayed in a team that has lacked rhythm most of the season.

Yup!

Be great to see what he thinks

 

[ninjamonkey]

Correct. We can't cherry pick on what he could have done or whatever. He did what he thought was best at the time, forced his man on the weaker side, and the Forrest player did well to score from a difficult angle. Questions over Ederson in this instance because he probably could have done much more.

Gvardiol has been our best performer this season, which maybe doesn't even say much this season, but he is at the bottom of our list of problems. He had some worse games as well, but generally speaking, he has done very well this season. We all know his quality.

Gvardiol hasn't just been our best player, there hasn't been a better left back in the league than him. He's the only city player that would get into a team of the season if done now.

 

[Tevez City]

Lets spend +80 on CB then use him as LB.

So whenever he had bad game, we will have an excuse.

 

[christened at st marks]

Wrong decisions again, he doesn.t work with Doku they are in each other's space, one of the best attacking tools we have at the moment.

 

[waspish]

Should show him a video of Khosovnov how to defend don't back off get tight to the man as quickly as possible and actually try to win the ball if you can't foul them before they get within few yards of our goal!

My biggest bugbear is defenders who back fcuking of a player all the way into the pen area Gvardiol stones Akanji do it all the time!

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

What he did yesterday was what Walker used to do every game and was the reason I completely lost all faith in that Yorkshire pervert to the point I nearly shed tears of joy when we fucked him off to Italy.

If you are playing full back. It's fucking criminal to stand 40 yards off the opposition winger. Get tight to your man for God's sake.

I think Josko has all the tools to be an all time great defender and is a Rolls Royce on the ball but he has to cut out these inexplicable brain fades he has every week. It's killing us.

 

[WallyA]

I think people have analyzed him very strangely.

So im seeing people say he isnt a LB, he is a CB! Because he is making defensive mistakes... does that make sense?

He is somehow being blamed for that goal that is mostly on Ederson.

He is most definitely a LB, his attacking qualities are actually TOO good for Pep to play him further back.

 

[pbueno16]

I think people have analyzed him very strangely.

So im seeing people say he isnt a LB, he is a CB! Because he is making defensive mistakes... does that make sense?

He is somehow being blamed for that goal that is mostly on Ederson.

He is most definitely a LB, his attacking qualities are actually TOO good for Pep to play him further back.

I think we can live with conceding a chance like that. What we can't accept is conceding a goal from a chance like that. Gvardiol forced Hudson Odoi wide and allowed a shot which should be saved the vast majority of times. Very poor from Ederson to not be on his near post with the ball in that position.

Not excusing Gvardiol's passing yesterday though which was just poor and left us on the back foot multiple times. Defensively, he's solid enough considering he gets no help from the midfield and Doku/Savinho are too busy in their own little worlds to do any dirty work defensively.

 

[WallyA]

I think we can live with conceding a chance like that. What we can't accept is conceding a goal from a chance like that. Gvardiol forced Hudson Odoi wide and allowed a shot which should be saved the vast majority of times. Very poor from Ederson to not be on his near post with the ball in that position.

Not excusing Gvardiol's passing yesterday though which was just poor and left us on the back foot multiple times. Defensively, he's solid enough considering he gets no help from the midfield and Doku/Savinho are too busy in their own little worlds to do any dirty work defensively.

Some of the passing could be better, but he still had 90% accuracy and made the 2nd most chances, behind Foden, because he actually tries paasing through the lines.

Id never want Pep to take that away from him or to reel that in, because this season his passes in the final 3rd have generally been quite good.

 

[vanchi]

Some of the passing could be better, but he still had 90% accuracy and made the 2nd most chances, behind Foden, because he actually tries paasing through the lines.

Id never want Pep to take that away from him or to reel that in, because this season his passes in the final 3rd have generally been quite good.

even before the goal yesterday the match thread was full of shitposts about gvardiol.

only the cbs and the gk had better pass accuracy than him yet everyone’s waffling about his shit passing, keep the same standards for your favorites people. or don’t and continue w the biased hypocrisy.

he should’ve had 2 assists yesterday, nobody mentions that or anything good he does, while glazing some other players for breathing.

after the last game he played there was not a single post here for days, not one. not just the usual gvardiol haters, nobody else as well. not a single word.

it’s just piling enormous amounts of shit that this fanbase is interested in when it comes to gvardiol.

 

[Dax777]

@Dax777




Gave him space & time to do whatever he wants

There is a general lack of understanding of what's required in that scenario. Gvardiol defended the play correctly.

At best Gibbs White shouldn't jave had the time to make such a pass, and Doku should be have probably been farther back.

But either way, once the pass was made, Gvardiol made the right decision in the circumstance. Slow the attacker down and give him a narrow shot window.

He did both correctly. Should Ederson have saved it? Probably. But Gvardiol was pretty good in the aggregate

 

[vanchi]

That Croatian fan will come for me again and say I'm singling him out when I'm not, but he's just not getting it done. His passing and defending have been wildly inconsistent for two seasons now.

keep the same standards for your favorites dude. his passing was crap at 90% accuracy? sure jan.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

even before the goal yesterday the match thread was full of shitposts about gvardiol.

only the cbs and the gk had better pass accuracy than him yet everyone’s waffling about his shit passing, keep the same standards for your favorites people. or don’t and continue w the biased hypocrisy.

he should’ve had 2 assists yesterday, nobody mentions that or anything good he does, while glazing some other players for breathing.

after the last game he played there was not a single post here for days, not one. not just the usual gvardiol haters, nobody else as well. not a single word.

it’s just piling enormous amounts of shit that this fanbase is interested in when it comes to gvardiol.

Gvardiol is a very accurate passer but he has a penchant for the occasional bad pass (sometimes he forms a picture, gets the ball and makes a blind pass based on what he saw several seconds ago which can lead to a turnover) and sometimes - because he's a defender - those bad passes lead to goal scoring opportunities for the opponent.

 

[Dax777]

even before the goal yesterday the match thread was full of shitposts about gvardiol.

only the cbs and the gk had better pass accuracy than him yet everyone’s waffling about his shit passing, keep the same standards for your favorites people. or don’t and continue w the biased hypocrisy.

he should’ve had 2 assists yesterday, nobody mentions that or anything good he does, while glazing some other players for breathing.

after the last game he played there was not a single post here for days, not one. not just the usual gvardiol haters, nobody else as well. not a single word.

it’s just piling enormous amounts of shit that this fanbase is interested in when it comes to gvardiol.

He os our season's best player and currently the 2nd best player on the team.

1. Khusanov
2. Gvardiol

No one else is better. And I'm not sure its particularly close

 

[Dax777]

Lets spend +80 on CB then use him as LB.

So whenever he had bad game, we will have an excuse.

He didn't have a bad game

 

[vanchi]

Gvardiol is a very accurate passer but he has a penchant for the occasional bad pass (sometimes he forms a picture, gets the ball and makes a blind pass based on what he saw several seconds ago which can lead to a turnover) and sometimes - because he's a defender - those bad passes lead to goal scoring opportunities for the opponent.

occasional pass vs he can’t pass at all hmh

there were many moments where i posted evidence of his passing accuracy when he was accused of being the worst passer on the pitch when everyone else was worse than him. it’s been happening since he joined.

also, what’s with waxing lyrical about good defensive actions by other players and nothing when it’s gvardiol who does well?

his goal contributions are described as “just coz he scored a couple of goals” so even that part of his game is worthless and irrelevant.

there is nothing he can do to make some people shit on him, apart from leaving this club. oh no, that won’t stop them either, they’ll just use the past tenses.

 

[vanchi]

He os our season's best player and currently the 2nd best player on the team.

1. Khusanov
2. Gvardiol

No one else is better. And I'm not sure its particularly close

someone will probably call you a fanboy now, that’s their level.

 

[Dax777]

someone will probably call you a fanboy now, that’s their level.

Im actually not that big of a fan. I don't talk much about him. I just appreciate that he is very good. He is just clearly above and beyond most in his performances compared to theirs.