31 | Ederson - 2022/23 Performances

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Psychedelic Casual said:
Another load of shithouse pretend world class bedroom goalkeepers, playing too much FIFA22 pretending to know what goalkeeping is about, when seeing goals conceded in slow motion replays and saying Ederson should do better…

FUCK THE FUCK OFF! You’re all fucking clueless!

Knob’eds
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You mean Pep?

Can you quote the posts you’re unhappy with? And what mark out of ten would you give Eddie yesterday?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Another load of shithouse pretend world class bedroom goalkeepers, playing too much FIFA22 pretending to know what goalkeeping is about, when seeing goals conceded in slow motion replays and saying Ederson should do better…

FUCK THE FUCK OFF! You’re all fucking clueless!

Knob’eds
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He had a poor game,he was careless and clumsy again.No one needs to be a professional goal keeper to recognise that,and have an opinion on it.
 
(Deflection): Deflection or not, Ederson as a goalkeeper should have done better, that is what a good goalkeeper will do in this situations.

(Thought Eddie didn’t do much wrong today): He did when he allowed that first goal, as a goalkeeper it is his responsibility to cover some of the defense mistakes. He in most of the games will not do alot due to our playing style and technique, but every game he will receive two or three shots and he should be able to deal with it.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Another load of shithouse pretend world class bedroom goalkeepers, playing too much FIFA22 pretending to know what goalkeeping is about, when seeing goals conceded in slow motion replays and saying Ederson should do better…

FUCK THE FUCK OFF! You’re all fucking clueless!

Knob’eds
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But what do you REALLY think?
 
I was not happy with his contribution to the first goal yesterday watching from SS3 but it was even worse seeing it on MOTD this morning. It was a simple collect that he made a complete mess of and led to the Cancelo foul.

The disallowed goal was borderline I'd say and if that was us having it chalked off then I would be feeling very aggrieved. Lack of concentration and focus at certain points of the game is becoming a regular occurrence unfortunately.
 
Millennium said:
(Deflection): Deflection or not, Ederson as a goalkeeper should have done better, that is what a good goalkeeper will do in this situations.

(Thought Eddie didn’t do much wrong today): He did when he allowed that first goal, as a goalkeeper it is his responsibility to cover some of the defense mistakes. He in most of the games will not do alot due to our playing style and technique, but every game he will receive two or three shots and he should be able to deal with it.
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Very lucky ti get away with that disallowed 3rd goal as I think we he ball had gone away from him and it was only because even the palace players didn’t really appeal did it that no one really bothered . Couldn’t stop the first but should have not fumbled it allowing for the free kick . Problem is that he doesn’t really have much to do so never really gets into a rhythm.
 
Paul1970 said:
Very lucky ti get away with that disallowed 3rd goal as I think we he ball had gone away from him and it was only because even the palace players didn’t really appeal did it that no one really bothered . Couldn’t stop the first but should have not fumbled it allowing for the free kick . Problem is that he doesn’t really have much to do so never really gets into a rhythm.
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Ref wasn’t even looking at it either, he was running to the other end and had to turn round to see what the fuss was about.
 
Cancelo was as culpable as Eddie for the first if not more culpable. No need for the foul, no need to jump in. So other than Eddie spilling the ball what else did he do wrong because the referee disallowed their 'third' for foul play?

We are shipping goals and I think its more the move to inverted full backs than any individual. Suddenly our CB's dont look as solid, Rodri is caught more times than I remember. They haven't suddenly become poorer players. Its the system which will bed down if we give it a little time. Eddie has a stack of credit chips for me, the odd mistake is neither here nor there.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
That’s pretty much all he had to do! The one thing he needed to do properly he completely messed up. That first goal was his fault completely for me. He has got to do better than that.
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"his fault completely" , really ? did he pick the ball up and chuck it in the net or concede a penalty or o.g ? No he cleared the ball out of his area, not as well as he normally does and returned to his line, he then, along with 10 teammates saw the ball ricochet off 3 players at close quarters and enter the net. Was he faultless before the goal was scored ? no, were the rest of the team faultless before the goal ? no. For me he made 1 of a sequence of errors by the team prior to the goal, no more, no less.
 
asahartford1 said:
Oh come on, he had no chance with the second-;)
Yesterday I read on the infamous match forum one particular nuisance blaming him for the goals yesterday, one a triple deflection own goal and a free header from 6 yards.
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That's bad . I believe in another instance he cleared his lines but failed to smile and blow kisses to his detractors on the Pale Bluefaced Critic's Forum, rumour is, one more folly and he'll be cleaning out the planes that the Sheikh transports his falcons in. Then who will we pay 100 million for to change the way goalkeeping is perceived ? We are on the precipice unless Kyle is prepared to risk his 100% cleansheet record in goal.
 
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Saddleworth2 said:
Cancelo was as culpable as Eddie for the first if not more culpable. No need for the foul, no need to jump in. So other than Eddie spilling the ball what else did he do wrong because the referee disallowed their 'third' for foul play?

We are shipping goals and I think its more the move to inverted full backs than any individual. Suddenly our CB's dont look as solid, Rodri is caught more times than I remember. They haven't suddenly become poorer players. Its the system which will bed down if we give it a little time. Eddie has a stack of credit chips for me, the odd mistake is neither here nor there.
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In general about shipping goals and nothing to do with Eddie, goals conceded from set pieces (corners, direct/indirect free kicks) are down to straight up traditional defending and not the impact of inverted full backs.
Last season we conceded just 1 set-piece ALL season. After 4 games this season we have conceded 3.

As for Eddie, based on the most comprehensive advanced goalkeeping data, towards the end of 20-21 he was the best GK in the PL. Using the same date he was just average in 21/22. There has been a clear and measurable fall-off in his form. Form is a wonderful thing. It's great when it returns and for me he needs to build-up that stack again:)
 
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Saddleworth2 said:
Cancelo was as culpable as Eddie for the first if not more culpable. No need for the foul, no need to jump in. So other than Eddie spilling the ball what else did he do wrong because the referee disallowed their 'third' for foul play?

We are shipping goals and I think its more the move to inverted full backs than any individual. Suddenly our CB's dont look as solid, Rodri is caught more times than I remember. They haven't suddenly become poorer players. Its the system which will bed down if we give it a little time. Eddie has a stack of credit chips for me, the odd mistake is neither here nor there.
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Agreed, poor Kyle was attempting the role of deep lying playmaker in the first half, imo he is no Pirlo or even Modric. It's a much changed squad and I think Pep is tweaking to find the best mix.
 
samarasra said:
That's bad . I believe in another instance he cleared his lines but failed to smile and blow kisses to his detractors on the Pale Bluefaced Critic's Forum, rumour is, one more folly and he'll be cleaning out the planes that the Sheikh transports his falcons in. Then who will we pay 100 million for to change the way goalkeeping is perceived ? We are on the precipice unless Kyle is prepared to risk his 100% cleansheet record in goal.
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Quoting me in the same instance as @citywarrior has put a knife deep into my back.
 
SWP's back said:
Eddie’s failure to hold that simple ball made Cancelo commit the foul which led to the first ball.

Pep on that incident: 'The fault for the first goal, Eddie has to deal with the initial ball, to take responsibility,' he said. 'Today we were lucky to come back but the Premier League does not wait, you will not come back in some games.'

Yesterday wasn’t Eddie’s best game as we conceded two shots on target and conceded two goals but we move on.
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Ederson should have held it, no debate there, but that didn't force cancelo into the foul, their player took a touch out towards ilthe sideline, the immediate danger to goal wasn't there once he did that, cancelo could and should have just tailed him into a dead end.

2 shots 2 goals is a completely pointless stat. Neither goal was saveable so you're essentially berating him for not having to make routine saves during the game.

There was one minor basic mistake which led to cancelo making an equally minor mistake of his own which resulted in a freekick which led to a freak own goal.
 
samarasra said:
That's bad . I believe in another instance he cleared his lines but failed to smile and blow kisses to his detractors on the Pale Bluefaced Critic's Forum, rumour is, one more folly and he'll be cleaning out the planes that the Sheikh transports his falcons in. Then who will we pay 100 million for to change the way goalkeeping is perceived ? We are on the precipice unless Kyle is prepared to risk his 100% cleansheet record in goal.
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The first person you quoted is a Barca fan.
 
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