4 | Kalvin Phillips - 2024/25

And if that is/were the case, those who have dealt with afflictions such as depression will tell you how hard the most menial of tasks are to complete when at a low ebb, let alone being in the top percent of your domain.

None of the BM scouting experts who contribute to this thread , would ever accept or acknowledge the possibility of such.
 
As I keep saying over and over whenever these discussions come up about him: the shoulder injury (and subsequent surgery) he got just as we signed him absolutely fucked him up. He's League One level at best these days.

A shoulder injury killed off Negredo and he was 10x the player at his peak. It makes movement painful and it makes throwing your weight around - crucial for a midfielder - almost impossible. You could see it clear as day when he was here.

A nice lad and a talented player, who would have performed well if he'd stayed fit. But he probably benefited a bit from being in Bielsa system (along with Patrick Bamford and a couple of other players from that 20/21 Leeds team) and then got screwed by that injury.

It happens. He's got a few big medals. More than 99% of players get. We're just going to have to keep loaning him lower and lower down the pyramid until his contract runs down (in four years) and he retires aged 32.
"the shoulder injury (and subsequent surgery) he got just as we signed him absolutely fucked him up"

What a pile of crap, he had surgery to pin his shoulder , a very common injury/procedure.

Sorry but that's a crock, no it was hardly a great way to start his career but my word if he has let his career be destroyed for such a situation it may tell you a lot about his mentality.
 
We don’t know if he’ll stay or go but he deserves a thread in here in addition to the transfer thread.
Last night was his best performance in the pre season friendlies and maybe something Pep will consider for the last friendly against Chelsea and even Charity Shield with Ruben, John and Kyle all returning late in the day.
Anyway, I’ve watched the game and Kalvin is definitely better with the game in front of him. Far from perfect but some of his passes were excellent. Well done lad, keep working and who knows what will happen in the future.

He’ll come good in the end.
 

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