4 | Kalvin Phillips - 2024/25

[cleavers]

Won everything, got paid loads and lost his motivation.

Also barely played for 2 seasons.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Also barely played for 2 seasons.

True. The viscous circle of him needing games and not being ‘up to speed’ mean less and less teams will take a punt on him.

Perhaps he needs a season in the EDS.

 

[Middedon]

As I keep saying over and over whenever these discussions come up about him: the shoulder injury (and subsequent surgery) he got just as we signed him absolutely fucked him up. He's League One level at best these days.

A shoulder injury killed off Negredo and he was 10x the player at his peak. It makes movement painful and it makes throwing your weight around - crucial for a midfielder - almost impossible. You could see it clear as day when he was here.

A nice lad and a talented player, who would have performed well if he'd stayed fit. But he probably benefited a bit from being in Bielsa system (along with Patrick Bamford and a couple of other players from that 20/21 Leeds team) and then got screwed by that injury.

It happens. He's got a few big medals. More than 99% of players get. We're just going to have to keep loaning him lower and lower down the pyramid until his contract runs down (in four years) and he retires aged 32.

Add to that some likely mental health issues that were either caused or exacerbated by the injuries. I know he makes a lot of money, but it’s a terrible situation for him that will likely only get worse.

 

[big gaz]

True. The viscous circle of him needing games and not being ‘up to speed’ mean less and less teams will take a punt on him.

Perhaps he needs a season in the EDS.

Why should they suffer ;-)

 

[big gaz]

He was of seemingly a decent standard, was a regular for England. Makes a move to City and the penny drops. Can't be form if you stink the place out for years at City West Ham and Ipswich.
Can only think he has realised he ain't great and he's maybe unwilling to put the hard work in to play for mediocre teams.
Probably fallen out of love with it all? Who knows.

I agree with the "penny drops " quote. think he turned up at training and thought WTF.

 

[remember arthur mann]

It probably already is, but he’s guaranteed another 3 years of £150k a week. Guess he’ll then retire.

The new Danny Mills.

It must be a Leeds thing.

 

[BlueMonkey79]

No refunds; no returns.

In that article Mckenna says he is surprised at his lack of running power.

First and foremost as a footballer regardless of skill is being able to run!!

If he can't do that then there is no hope for him.

He's finished at the top level. I can't even remember him having a barely decent game for City. He was a car crash at West Ham and now he's stinking Ipswich out!

He makes Rodwell and Javi Garcia look like ballers.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Anybody else in other jobs would be given warnings and then if their performance didn't improve they would be sacked for gross incompetence. The very least Philips could and should do is get properly fit.

 

[B\connellblue]

Why is anyone surprised? Useless from the first day he came through the door..As for winning a treble, if he had any self respect he would have handed back those medals as he played no part in winning them. Terminate his contract if we can and take the hit.

 

[BlueTG]

Add to that some likely mental health issues that were either caused or exacerbated by the injuries. I know he makes a lot of money, but it’s a terrible situation for him that will likely only get worse.

And if that is/were the case, those who have dealt with afflictions such as depression will tell you how hard the most menial of tasks are to complete when at a low ebb, let alone being in the top percent of your domain.