40,000 Iraqis stranded on Sinjar mountain

[Skashion]

Has anybody nominated you for the Nobel Peace Prize yet?

No, but the whole Middle East being on fire might be suggestive of the fact that I was right.

 

[aguero93:20]

Has anybody nominated you for the Nobel Peace Prize yet?

No, but the whole Middle East being on fire thanks largely to western meddling might be suggestive of the fact that I was right.

Sorry Skash, little edit.

 

[scotty123]

I always find this a very strange argument.

People who can't be arsed protesting about anything, critising people who can be arsed protesting about somethings because they don't protest about something else that the original person also can't be arsed protesting about.

Do you know me?
Have you followed me around all my miserable existence on this planet?
How the fuck do you know i'v never protested against anything
As i said you havn't got a clue what i'v done or who i am so stop trying to be fucking clever

I said, this argument. If you can call it an argument. In general. Not specifically you.

I've seen what you wrote, repeated almost word for word in pubs by people who rarely venture further than between their front door and the vault of their local, getting worked up about why protesters from issue A don't feel strongly enough about issue B to protest about that also.

When the only things that would ever get them out on the streets would be if the pub burnt down.

Again you havn't got a fucking clue what i have done or who i am, i will just put it this way i was at it in the early 70s, you might have been just a spunk bubble then, but there again i will not presume anything as i don't know you either

 

[jimbopm]

Well i'm certainly not going to argue that things are hunky dory in Iraq, and I would have to read Mark's assertions on the subject before understanding what his views are. It just seems to me like you don't want anything done about it, not least by the moderates who I believe have the main responsibility to tackle this problem.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

You say i'm having a go at them, damn right I am. If I was a religious believer whose code was being hijacked by a lunatic fringe, then I would want to do something about that, no just sit back and watch because you better believe that that fringe once all of it's external enemies have been fought, it will turn on it's internal ones too.

Iraq is on the mend

Markt85, September less than a year ago. I was right, he was wrong.

Don't want anything to be done? I've outlined exactly what I think should be done about the wider conflict:

The only positive sign seems to be that even Saudi Arabia realises it's fucked up and is now fearful of the monster it created, I don't really think the west can do much about it now. Saudi Arabia and Iran should be strongly encouraged with their current agenda of easing the tensions. Get the Iranians to apply pressure on Maliki or just get rid of him altogether (there's actually a story in Reuters that the Iranians are already going in this direction which is a great conciliatory gesture and shows they are onboard with shutting this shit down), and also try to convince Iran and Saudi Arabia to ratchet down the tensions with a phased scale-down of hostilities between the groups they have some measure of control over (obviously this is easier said for the Iranians who still exert genuine influence over Assad and Hezbollah). Indeed, the time should have come for Saudi Arabia to cut the apron strings completely. It's time Saudi Arabia grew a fucking pair and stopped sponsoring extremist Sunni scumbags in order to protect itself, because it won't work much longer. ISIS eyes are already turning on Saudi Arabia and they will be next if they manage to take control in Iraq and Syria.

What part of that isn't wanting something done. I'd even be supportive of joint Irani-Saudi military action against ISIS but I think that would be foolishly optimistic. As to what should be done about this specific event, an airlift and airdropped humantarian aid seems like a good idea. However, who are the countries with that many helicopters to get it done? and will they do it? Doubtful.

As for saying only Sunnis should protest. Nope, we're all human beings. Human beings should voice their opposition to all human-caused human tragedy. Sadly this is rare, and in no way limited to Sunni Muslims.

All Iran and Saudi Arabia will do is sponsor the resistance to ISIS until they are satisfied that the threat to their immediate sovereignty is diminished. Then they will return to being the introverted states they have been for the last few decades.

 

[scotty123]

Has anybody nominated you for the Nobel Peace Prize yet?

No, but the whole Middle East being on fire might be suggestive of the fact that I was right.

Don't get covered in chocolate your tongue will not be able to cope

 

[Plaything of the gods]

All Iran and Saudi Arabia will do is sponsor the resistance to ISIS until they are satisfied that the threat to their immediate sovereignty is diminished. Then they will return to being the introverted states they have been for the last few decades.

 

[The Flash]

The Yazidis have a peacock angel as a religious symbol.

The Sunni's see the peacock as an agent of the devil, therefore they view the Yazidis as devil-worshippers.

Which is clearly fucking bonkers as fuck.

Fact remains - no group of people should be suffering oppression from their neighbours.

 

[aguero93:20]

The Yazidis have a peacock angel as a religious symbol.

The Sunni's see the peacock as an agent of the devil, therefore they view the Yazidis as devil-worshippers.

Which is clearly fucking bonkers as fuck.

Fact remains - no group of people should be suffering oppression from their neighbours.

 

[tidyman]

Do you know me?
Have you followed me around all my miserable existence on this planet?
How the fuck do you know i'v never protested against anything
As i said you havn't got a clue what i'v done or who i am so stop trying to be fucking clever

I said, this argument. If you can call it an argument. In general. Not specifically you.

I've seen what you wrote, repeated almost word for word in pubs by people who rarely venture further than between their front door and the vault of their local, getting worked up about why protesters from issue A don't feel strongly enough about issue B to protest about that also.

When the only things that would ever get them out on the streets would be if the pub burnt down.

Again you havn't got a fucking clue what i have done or who i am, i will just put it this way i was at it in the early 70s, you might have been just a spunk bubble then, but there again i will not presume anything as i don't know you either

What were you at in the early 70's?

Spending 24 hours of every day protesting about eveything you felt wasn't perfect in the world?

Or protesting about the main issues you felt strongest about at the time, which didn't by default mean you agreed with everything else that was going on in the world?

 

[Plaything of the gods]

The Yazidis have a peacock angel as a religious symbol.

The Sunni's see the peacock as an agent of the devil, therefore they view the Yazidis as devil-worshippers.

Which is clearly fucking bonkers as fuck.

Fact remains - no group of people should be suffering oppression from their neighbours.

...unless they wear red and worship a little trident-carrying red devil.