#5 | John Stones - 2020/21 Performances

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Was it a statement by Pep playing him ahead of Garcia this time?
Weirdly I would argue it was more of a statement by Stones in a way.

Garcia getting picked so much last season was on one part a statement on what Guardiola thinks of Garcia, but the fact we saw so little of Stones and Otamendi is another statement on what Pep thought of them.

One constant with Pep is that if he doesn't think you're good enough for the team, you don't play. (Rightly or wrongly) We've seen a lot of young players not get minutes due to it but also players Pep doesn't trust anymore tend to get the cold shoulder too. We've seen he'd rather play a player he trusts out of position that someone he doesn't in position, and he can take that quite far sometimes (Remember Fernandinho at LB?). If he doesn't trust you he only plays you when he feels he has absolutely to, and how many minutes that is equivalent too I suppose depends on how good they were.

So at the back end of last season Stones was only getting minutes to help someone else rest. I wouldn't say he was done for, but it felt like Pep had lost a lot of patience with him. There were quite a few rumours of this at the time too, which I'm inclined to believe were true.


So the fact that now he's getting games ahead of both Garcia and Fernandinho suggests to me that something has happened to convince Pep that Stones is good enough. Maybe it's Stones stepping up a gear, or being fitter than ever, or something else entirely. A 16/17 Touré revival of sorts.

My point being, Stones playing is a statement that Stones has done something to up his game, or at least get back to his former levels. And on top of that given the circumstances he was the best option available. Because Pep would 100% play Garcia or Fernandinho there if he felt he had to or that he felt they were better.


The only possible statement by Pep here would be that he's a Stones fan again. I don't think it has any bearing on his feelings for Garcia.
 
Fernandinho is injured mate
Weirdly I would argue it was more of a statement by Stones in a way.

Garcia getting picked so much last season was on one part a statement on what Guardiola thinks of Garcia, but the fact we saw so little of Stones and Otamendi is another statement on what Pep thought of them.

One constant with Pep is that if he doesn't think you're good enough for the team, you don't play. (Rightly or wrongly) We've seen a lot of young players not get minutes due to it but also players Pep doesn't trust anymore tend to get the cold shoulder too. We've seen he'd rather play a player he trusts out of position that someone he doesn't in position, and he can take that quite far sometimes (Remember Fernandinho at LB?). If he doesn't trust you he only plays you when he feels he has absolutely to, and how many minutes that is equivalent too I suppose depends on how good they were.

So at the back end of last season Stones was only getting minutes to help someone else rest. I wouldn't say he was done for, but it felt like Pep had lost a lot of patience with him. There were quite a few rumours of this at the time too, which I'm inclined to believe were true.


So the fact that now he's getting games ahead of both Garcia and Fernandinho suggests to me that something has happened to convince Pep that Stones is good enough. Maybe it's Stones stepping up a gear, or being fitter than ever, or something else entirely. A 16/17 Touré revival of sorts.

My point being, Stones playing is a statement that Stones has done something to up his game, or at least get back to his former levels. And on top of that given the circumstances he was the best option available. Because Pep would 100% play Garcia or Fernandinho there if he felt he had to or that he felt they were better.


The only possible statement by Pep here would be that he's a Stones fan again. I don't think it has any bearing on his feelings for Garcia.
 
Was it a statement by Pep playing him ahead of Garcia this time?
Who knows what motivated the decision.

That said, Stones performed well as he sometimes/often does. It's the occasional, unexpected daft mistake that undoes Stones. I don't think that John has a future at our club.

Meanwhile, Garcia still seems to have his heart set on Barca - to the extent that playing Garcia to show Eric that he's a part of our plans going forward no longer makes sense given that Garcia is - by all appearances - going to leave us next summer - maybe that factored into the selection of Stones.
 
This seems like a loaded question - I'll turn it around - assuming that you think that Stones has a future at our club - why do you believe so?

Not loaded at all,i'm not the devious type........

Other than not being happy playing back up,i see no reason he would want to leave one of the best clubs in the world.He is a very good player and he is hopefully over his personal issues and injury problems.Pep also seems happy with him again.
 
Not loaded at all,i'm not the devious type........

Other than not being happy playing back up,i see no reason he would want to leave one of the best clubs in the world.He is a very good player and he is hopefully over his personal issues and injury problems.Pep also seems happy with him again.
By-in-large John is good/great most times at CB - unfortunately he has a penchant for committing some sort of bone-head error - frequently a very bad pass - that, for whatever reason, leads to an opposition goal more than you'd expect.

Whenever Stones starts... I'm a bit worried until we're up by 2 goals.
 
By-in-large John is good/great most times at CB - unfortunately he has a penchant for committing some sort of bone-head error - frequently a very bad pass - that, for whatever reason, leads to an opposition goal more than you'd expect.

Whenever Stones starts... I'm a bit worried until we're up by 2 goals.
Agreed,he can be clumsy,but he can also be incredibly cultured too.I don't think we could find a better 3rd/4th choice.Our 4 centre halves must now be the envy of the league.
 
He'll always be a decent fourth choice, but I really don't think he'll ever turn into the centre half we thought he was going to be, now. Credit where credit's due and all that, but he's definitely fourth in the pecking order.
 
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