52 | Oscar Bobb - 2023/24

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Loaning Bobb would be the second dumbest thing Txiki has done, only to signing Phillips.
 
Jonas.shaffer said:
Loaning Bobb would be the second dumbest thing Txiki has done, only to signing Phillips.
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The thing is, next season, he needs to be given a serious bump up in minutes in play time.

I'm saying a proper squad player, he has 800 minutes this season compared to Cole Palmer in the same age bracket getting 3300 minutes.

He is 20, turning 21 soon in July, he is at the age where all that matters is that he gets minutes.

He doesn't need to get 3000 minutes at this stage next season, but he should be getting at minimum (if fit) 1500 minutes (Rico has 1600 right now), and probably somewhere closer to 2000-2500 (Kovacic has 2400, and is the definition of the number of minutes and proper squad player gets).

Anybody fit for the whole season and is a proper starting 11 player (or really close) gets 3000+ minutes.

He doesn't need to get that right away, but he could if he had more opportunities to shine and make us HAVE to play him.

I really hope we don't loan him.
 
I really really hope Bobb doesn’t go on loan, would love to see him getting more minutes on the right next season, especially if Bernie does exit. I think he’s more versatile than Doku as well.
 
In order to get him more minutes perhaps the player & his mgt. has to change the narrative about him. Atm many fans & perhaps some people in the coaching staff view him as this young academy lad who can wait for his minutes & can´t be fully trusted. But in reality he`s soon to be 21 years & national team player (for a small country) who plays with the likes of Erling,Odegaard & already earnt a spot as a regular starter. He needs to get minutes asap & not some sub minutes in "garbage time".

Had hope after the Newcastle game but disappointing developement in the 2nd half of the season. The performances of Doku,Grealish,Bernardo or other players weren`t that good to justify these low minutes. Anyway. With the rumoured midfield targets & Savio incoming it doesn`t look promising for next season & he can´t bank on Barca finding some cash for Bernardo.
 
He needs minimum of 1000 minutes next season, regardless of where he will play

Same thing for Sergio Gomez & Rico
 
Bit worried he's not gonna get enough gametime

Kev has been injured pretty much the entire season yet he's been restricted to only a handful of appearances and cameos. That's also with Jack being on the injury list more than he's ever been.

He's 13 months younger than Palmer, so he's at the same stage Cole was last summer...and while I don't expect to leave as he's just signed an extension the year Coles had at Chelsea has allowed him to flourish more than he ever would with us

I'm tempted to say the club should loan him, he needs significant minutes. I guess with Palmer we had Mahrez leaving so he had an avenue into the first XI, so unless Bernardo leaves which you never know as he's linked away every year there isn't really a place for him right now. And honestly if Bernardo leaves I expect us to get I na replacement, he's a much more integral part of our team to Mahrez was in his last season.

Am I right in saying with the new Champions League format there will be more games next year? Maybe that helps a little. But outside of that he will struggle.

Think a loan move to a Brighton or potentially Palace (if they lose Olise/Eze) or West Ham (if they lose Paqueta/Kudus) would be a great moves, even Girona could work with them getting champions league (and maybe Savio not returning)
 
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Bit worried he's not gonna get enough gametime

Kev has been injured pretty much the entire season yet he's been restricted to only a handful of appearances and cameos. That's also with Jack being on the injury list more than he's ever been.

He's 13 months younger than Palmer, so he's at the same stage Cole was last summer...and while I don't expect to leave as he's just signed an extension the year Coles had at Chelsea has allowed him to flourish more than he ever would with us

I'm tempted to say the club should loan him, he needs significant minutes. I guess with Palmer we had Mahrez leaving so he had an avenue into the first XI, so unless Bernardo leaves which you never know as he's linked away every year there isn't really a place for him right now. And honestly if Bernardo leaves I expect us to get I na replacement, he's a much more integral part of our team to Mahrez was in his last season.

Am I right in saying with the new Champions League format there will be more games next year? Maybe that helps a little. But outside of that he will struggle.

Think a loan move to a Brighton or potentially Palace (if they lose Olise/Eze) or West Ham (if they lose Paqueta/Kudus) would be a great moves, even Girona could work with them getting champions league (and maybe Savio not returning)
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He made his debut a bit later, so I wouldn't go with any Palmer comparisons just yet. Palmer made his debut at 18 with a couple of appearances. His first 'full' season, he played about 400 minutes in 11 appearances. Bobb has already played 800 minutes in 25 appearances this season.

It's absolutely normal for Pep to play new/young players much more at the start of the season too. And at the end of every season, they drop off the radar, and the more established players step up. That's one reason why we end the season so strongly.

I'd expect Bobb to play double those minutes next season, and given his late start, I doubt he's getting edgy yet.

Palmer has had a great season, but Chelsea is a special case. They have the youngest squad in the league by some distance - there just isn't anywhere else that a 21 year old could have gone in and taken over penalty duty, or establish themselves as the main attacking threat.
 
Foden has made people think that staying here is ALWAYS the best thing. It isn’t. Bobb should be loaned out next season. We’re going to sign 2 maybe 3 midfielders and 1 maybe 2 wingers (if Savio goes out to Girona again)… Bobb isn’t going to play.
 
Not everyone is Foden, but not everyone is Palmer either. It's on Bobb, he needs to make a decision for himself. I prefer a loan. With the competition here, he won't play too many games. Last year, I said Palmer had to leave because I knew he had the ability he showed this season, he just lacked playing time and opportunity. Similarly, Bobb also has the talent. Whether he can do it and how to do it can only be decided by himself.
 
handsofstone said:
Bit worried he's not gonna get enough gametime

Kev has been injured pretty much the entire season yet he's been restricted to only a handful of appearances and cameos. That's also with Jack being on the injury list more than he's ever been.

He's 13 months younger than Palmer, so he's at the same stage Cole was last summer...and while I don't expect to leave as he's just signed an extension the year Coles had at Chelsea has allowed him to flourish more than he ever would with us

I'm tempted to say the club should loan him, he needs significant minutes. I guess with Palmer we had Mahrez leaving so he had an avenue into the first XI, so unless Bernardo leaves which you never know as he's linked away every year there isn't really a place for him right now. And honestly if Bernardo leaves I expect us to get I na replacement, he's a much more integral part of our team to Mahrez was in his last season.

Am I right in saying with the new Champions League format there will be more games next year? Maybe that helps a little. But outside of that he will struggle.

Think a loan move to a Brighton or potentially Palace (if they lose Olise/Eze) or West Ham (if they lose Paqueta/Kudus) would be a great moves, even Girona could work with them getting champions league (and maybe Savio not returning)
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If the club could manage that it would be an excellent opportunity for him. As you say if Bernie leaves, we will get a replacement, a player with calibre, not a developing youngster. In that case, he may well want to follow Palmer's line of thinking to venture out to seek opportunities beyond Manchester.
 
cordonbleu said:
If the club could manage that it would be an excellent opportunity for him. As you say if Bernie leaves, we will get a replacement, a player with calibre, not a developing youngster. In that case, he may well want to follow Palmer's line of thinking to venture out to seek opportunities beyond Manchester.
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He's shown he's got the talent and the temperament ; give him a chance Pep.
 
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I think the best thing to happen to Bobb will be Bernardo staying seeing as Brokelona don't want to pay for him and it's more than likely he will stay as City won't budge from their valuation.

Pep doesn't need to find out if Bernardo is Mr. dependable. Bobb could easily deputize on the right wing if needed for the first half the season and provide valuable rest for Bernardo.
 
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