leighton
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jay_mcfc said:leighton said:Jay its rugby mate. A forward pass is a forward pass. England have been building that team under Lancaster what is it now 3 years give or take?? You have been building for that long. You have been runners up 3 years running in the 6 Nations when it really matters England crumble under the pressure. Ireland have a team that have winners in it as do Wales. Look at that Irish team how many Heineken Cup winners was in that team yesterday?? That is why Ireland in that pressure game away to France dug in and got the result. That was the best of the French this season. Joe Schmidt has done some job since he took over. He has had the experience but you look at the bench and it is full of young players coming on into the pack whick makes our rebuilding job going well. Time will tell. You would be silly to write off Ireland or Wales from winning a World Cup I dont think anyone will beat the All Blacks but with rugby teams from here are closing the gap.
Ireland if they can keep the bulk of this squad together and fit could have a very good World Cup. I look at the groups and England have a hard group for the World Cup with Aussies and Welsh so thats going to be a hard group. Ireland have France and Italy in there group with a realistic chance of getting to the knock out stages as can you honestly say England will have it easy against Wales and Aus???
You go on about Aura well this Irish team and players have a winning Aura around them. They go into the games knowing that they have to win each game they play its what it is expected from Ireland and always has been for years under the glory years of BOD and it will continue for years to come.
Wowzers. England lost in Paris in the first game in the last minute. Then they beat every other team comfortably and lose on GD and you say they have bottled it, or crumbled. How an Irish fan can talk about bottling it I'll never know with their performances in world cups over the years. You can win the 6nations on GD, England will still be the only contenders for the WC from the home nations next year. Ireland will go out in a blaze of glory in the QF's again, earning a load of plaudits whilst watching the semi's and final in a bar in Dublin.
So a 3 point win over Ireland is beating Ireland comfortably??? Really?? Far from comfortable. I think its more of harder game than a comfortable game. I think its all about opinions at the end of the day. IF you dominated Ireland in that game you would of won by a greater margin which you didnt. Next year we will see how far England have come on. I think its going to be a long hard year with 2 hard away games in Ireland and Wales leading into the World Cup.