mosssideblue
Well-Known Member
Who's saying he hasn't?He's got double figures for both goals and assists for the 8th year running.
Who's saying he hasn't?He's got double figures for both goals and assists for the 8th year running.
What a bizzare thing to post!Who's saying he hasn't?
What a bizzare thing to post!
Get behind the lad instead of knocking or seeking to undermine,ffs
Imagine if he played in red ." Best player in the world. "Mr consistent" etcHe's got double figures for both goals and assists for the 8th year running.
No one. It just hadn't been mentioned and I felt it was noteworthy.Who's saying he hasn't?
Yep,he's capable of brilliance.He is 26
9 seasons in the premier league, first choice for the top two clubs
England u16
u17
u19
u21
And 58 Full England caps.
280 appearances and 94 goals in the premier league.
There must be some awful professional coaches and managers.
Yep,he's capable of brilliance.
I think our differing opinions on certain aspects of his game have already been established.I think that those stats would also point to, consistency, perseverance, longevity , professionalism, and desire.
I don't think many would dispute.I think that those stats would also point to, consistency, perseverance, longevity , professionalism, and desire.
I think our differing opinions on certain aspects of his game have already been established.
I respect such.
Id also love him to improve.No I doubt it.
I am well aware of the attributes that are not at World class level. Finishing , first touch, certain movement off the ball, however I am probably much more aware of the attributes that have combined for the Statistics I laid bare a few posts prior.
I am also aware of the level of improvement since he first came and the improvement in those areas I outlined.
Our biggest difference in opinion is that I want him to stay, work hard and continue to improve and not sold at the earliest convenience.
I don't think many would dispute.
The issue I see is though, this seems to be the only player thread that always kicks off if his shortcomings are raised following a game, like he has earned some kind of protected species status by some.
Other player threads quite often talented players are subject to vitriol, yet that appears to raise no concerns.
Why does a players shortcomings being discussed on a fan forum cause so much angst?
A fair question is, can he?. As just pointed out, he is well established in age and experience, yet still of his weaknesses prevail. Can an old dog learn new tricks?Id also love him to improve.
Then why do other players not receive the same kindness?I think because many do so without acknowledging the overall benefit to the success of the team. Many concentrate on perceived weaknesses rather than being able to consider the wider contribution, as his coaches have done at the very top level for 9 seasons.
A fair question is, can he?. As just pointed out, he is well established in age and experience, yet still of his weaknesses prevail. Can an old dog learn new tricks?