737-8 max plane goes down (2018) - new not Max crash Indonesia

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Hi!

I fly up to 18,000’ and down from about 10,000’ unless the weather is bad, in which case I use the autopilot more. If the weather is really bad, we have to use the autopilot to touchdown.

Like most workspaces, it has its moments, but there are plenty of things to keep us occupied. Systems, radio calls, programming, route changes, decisions on weather deviations, altitudes, speeds, what to eat, how to prepare yourself to sleep in the bunk, and the ever popular just chatting!

As I type, I’m lying flat on my back in my undies, in the bunk, having just woken up before the end of my break! I’ll be getting a call in about 10 mins to get up and report back to the flight deck so the FO can take his break.

I’ve already arranged for the galley staff to prepare my lunch (salmon salad, roll and butter, cut fruit bowl of watermelon, honeydew, orange slice, pineapple and blueberries) for when I get up.

When I get onto the Flight Deck, I’ll get debriefed and then I’ll eat while the other pilot does the radios and any route changes. Once lunch is over, I’ll take over the flying duties and about 2 hrs later I’ll be landing in Chicago (United flight 906, for those who follow such things!). And, you may notice we are over 30 mins early, thank you very much!

;-)

So, plenty to do. Rarely bored, unless the other pilots are boring, but most aren’t! We have been talking about this LATAM 787 seat issue. Not convinced it’s an inadvertent switch push!!! I’ll reserve comment until we hear more.

And, we have been talking about experiences in the industry over the last 30 years, because we are a white guy, a black guy and a gay guy and have lots of stories to tell!

See…not boring at all! :-)
 
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It's very safe. Designing a new aircraft from scratch is extremely expensive and there is very little to gain from that investment unless it's a radical design like the A380 (which was actually a financial failure). Most newer aircraft are just improved older designs which have new engines and different materials etc.

The Boeing issues seem to come down to quality and they have rightly been criticised for that. However, Airbus aircraft sometimes have these issues too. You just won't hear about them because Boeing has a target painted on their back. Either way though you're more likely to be hit by a meteorite then be in a plane crash.

Behave, they have royally fucked up with this plane from day 1 all due to Airbus doing so well. The leadership pushing profit over safety and in the process have tarnished such a huge company. There is no target painted on their back to suggest otherwise makes you sound like a fanboy.



Looks like new 737 doesn’t share any parts with the original and the only thing that is the same is the diameter of the fuselage.

But also this is just standard in aviation design, there’s not been any groundbreaking advancements in plane designs since the 50’s. Theres still Douglas DC3’s flying around with square windows.

Boeing have their issues but they all supposed to stem from the 1997 merger so if anything you’d think people would prefer an older design…

Anyway, always worth remembering your chances of dying in a plane are 12 million to 1.

Chances of dying in a car is 5000/1.
 
The job of a modern pilot must be incredibly boring flying the latest aircraft.

Apart from initial take off and landing there is little to do, often pilots turn on the autopilot within seconds of taking off, the level of boredom of long flights must be enormous.

Hi!

I fly up to 18,000’ and down from about 10,000’ unless the weather is bad, in which case I use the autopilot more. If the weather is really bad, we have to use the autopilot to touchdown.

Like most workspaces, it has its moments, but there are plenty of things to keep us occupied. Systems, radio calls, programming, route changes, decisions on weather deviations, altitudes, speeds, what to eat, how to prepare yourself to sleep in the bunk, and the ever popular just chatting!

As I type, I’m lying flat on my back in my undies, in the bunk, having just woken up before the end of my break! I’ll be getting a call in about 10 mins to get up and report back to the flight deck so the FO can take his break.

I’ve already arranged for the galley staff to prepare my lunch (salmon salad, roll and butter, cut fruit bowl of watermelon, honeydew, orange slice, pineapple and blueberries) for when I get up.

When I get onto the Flight Deck, I’ll get debriefed and then I’ll eat while the other pilot does the radios and any route changes. Once lunch is over, I’ll take over the flying duties and about 2 hrs later I’ll be landing in Chicago (United flight 906, for those who follow such things!). And, you may notice we are over 30 mins early, thank you very much!

;-)

So, plenty to do. Rarely bored, unless the other pilots are boring, but most aren’t! We have been talking about this LATAM 787 seat issue. Not convinced it’s an inadvertent switch push!!! I’ll reserve comment until we hear more.

And, we have been talking about experiences in the industry over the last 30 years, because we are a white guy, a black guy and a gay guy and have lots of stories to tell!

See…not boring at all! :-)
get to work you lazy ****, too many Frankfurts!
 
Looks like new 737 doesn’t share any parts with the original and the only thing that is the same is the diameter of the fuselage.

But also this is just standard in aviation design, there’s not been any groundbreaking advancements in plane designs since the 50’s. Theres still Douglas DC3’s flying around with square windows.

Boeing have their issues but they all supposed to stem from the 1997 merger so if anything you’d think people would prefer an older design…

Anyway, always worth remembering your chances of dying in a plane are 12 million to 1.

Chances of dying in a car is 5000/1.
A lot if the problems with the max is because tge design is old and the ground handling requirement has changed. Due to the fact that it sits so close to the ground, a requirement in the 60's, it was difficult to fit the newer larger engines.
 
get to work you lazy ****, too many Frankfurts!
Well the way he overtook that UA4 traffic over Dog Island with only a 3k clearance was a masterclass of aviation awareness, coupled with a sniff of lexical semantics. Captain Over: Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?

I just want to tell you Chigago .. good luck. We're all counting on you.
 
It seems a crazy approach. Surely if you take the plane, you’ve got to take the extra exit. Of course that would probably mean two or three seats lost, so once again it’s about money.
It’s about capacity and Flight Attendants needed. The aircraft can be configured so it needs more FAs and emergency exits. Ryanair’s MAX’s have the exit, an FA and STILL have 2 seats on that row. I know because I flew them to Greece on one last summer!
 
No they are not.
I don’t hesitate to fly on them, because what you say is simply not true.

Think about how many are in service and how many hours they’ve flown…and we hear everything that ever happens to them highly magnified by the media because it’s the squirrel du jour!
 
Once sat in the cockpit jumpseat on a 777 Manchester to Hong Kong flt. looong,tedious,boring and very uncomfortable and that was a one off ,thought of doing it weekly must be a mare although no doubt the money compensates .
Didnt help my brother and son were in business class having a great time .
The 777 Jumpseat sits bolt upright and is definitely not the way to travel, which is why pilots only use it for about 30 mins after TO and 45 mins before LDG!

And, I’m sure it was more boring because you were there, if you’re not a pilot with the company and an “outsider/interloper.”
 
Well the way he overtook that UA4 traffic over Dog Island with only a 3k clearance was a masterclass of aviation awareness, coupled with a sniff of lexical semantics. Captain Over: Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?

I just want to tell you Chigago .. good luck. We're all counting on you.
It’s difficult work, but someone’s got to do it!

Home safely in Chicago after an eye-wateringly good landing on runway 27C in 20G35 winds. ;-)

Nudge nudge wink wink, know what I mean?!
 
Ever take pics or video ?
Only essential duties below 10,000’

Have a few pics from higher altitudes, but mainly physical geography stuff like glacial moraine, two glaciers meeting in a valley, but staying separate as they wind their way downhill, and the occasional jet overtake.

The 787 flies Mach .85/.86, which is faster than most, so we do overtake quite a few aircraft.

Southern Greenland.


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Air France 777-300
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Only essential duties below 10,000’

Have a few pics from higher altitudes, but mainly physical geography stuff like glacial moraine, two glaciers meeting in a valley, but staying separate as they wind their way downhill, and the occasional jet overtake.

The 787 flies Mach .85/.86, which is faster than most, so we do overtake quite a few aircraft.
How about bloweys from cabin staff ?
 
Is that 10k above sea level or airport ?
MSL.

You do seem quite interested in whether I’m getting low altitude blow jobs, and at what altitude. For the record, I’m not…at any altitude!

YMMV in the cabin. ;-)
 
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It’s about capacity and Flight Attendants needed. The aircraft can be configured so it needs more FAs and emergency exits. Ryanair’s MAX’s have the exit, an FA and STILL have 2 seats on that row. I know because I flew them to Greece on one last summer!
That is interesting because after the incident the press here were quick to point out that Ryanair did not have any aircraft of that type in operation.

Just to clarify, you are saying that Ryanair MAX’s have the “covered over exit” (sorry, don’t know the technical name)? If so, what row number ? :)
 
I don’t hesitate to fly on them, because what you say is simply not true.

Think about how many are in service and how many hours they’ve flown…and we hear everything that ever happens to them highly magnified by the media because it’s the squirrel du jour!
Squirrel du jour eh? Is that the main course in peasant class?
 
Hi!

I fly up to 18,000’ and down from about 10,000’ unless the weather is bad, in which case I use the autopilot more. If the weather is really bad, we have to use the autopilot to touchdown.

Like most workspaces, it has its moments, but there are plenty of things to keep us occupied. Systems, radio calls, programming, route changes, decisions on weather deviations, altitudes, speeds, what to eat, how to prepare yourself to sleep in the bunk, and the ever popular just chatting!

As I type, I’m lying flat on my back in my undies, in the bunk, having just woken up before the end of my break! I’ll be getting a call in about 10 mins to get up and report back to the flight deck so the FO can take his break.

I’ve already arranged for the galley staff to prepare my lunch (salmon salad, roll and butter, cut fruit bowl of watermelon, honeydew, orange slice, pineapple and blueberries) for when I get up.

When I get onto the Flight Deck, I’ll get debriefed and then I’ll eat while the other pilot does the radios and any route changes. Once lunch is over, I’ll take over the flying duties and about 2 hrs later I’ll be landing in Chicago (United flight 906, for those who follow such things!). And, you may notice we are over 30 mins early, thank you very much!

;-)

So, plenty to do. Rarely bored, unless the other pilots are boring, but most aren’t! We have been talking about this LATAM 787 seat issue. Not convinced it’s an inadvertent switch push!!! I’ll reserve comment until we hear more.

And, we have been talking about experiences in the industry over the last 30 years, because we are a white guy, a black guy and a gay guy and have lots of stories to tell!

See…not boring at all! :-)
it amazes me that some people think a pilots job could be boring, just the taking off into an early morning summer sky would be worth it, i know its not all glamour(getting up/going to bed at awful times) as some think ,but a pretty decent job imo, as for the food

we were doing a little aircraft that comes from billand (think norway) they used to have ice creams in tubs that were delicious, we were allowed to help ourselves :), one day we get the ice creams and there were some chocolate muffins, so we helped ourselves,ice cream and muffins, a sort of butty we made and a mess, anyway a week later we get called into the office ,we were shown a picture of us covered in ice cream scoffing the muffins, muffins that were meant for the crew :)
 

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