75 | Nico O'Reilly - 2024/25

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Seriously, what the fuck did he do off the pitch since the Salford game where he put in a top performance.

How does Pep not use this guy?

He didn’t cost money and he’s from the academy…

Seriously though I don’t get it either

 

[madloaf]

Has to play tomorrow. Desperately in need of legs in the midfield.

 

[Yue Wollongong]

The body language of O’Reilly in the 20 minutes in Ipswich match shows a typical teenager’s looseness and a contrast to real players alertness. He has a long way to go and I don’t understand the hype around him. Rico despite his all disadvantages, is a tidier player standing on the pitch than OReilly.

 

[Goater=Legend]

The body language of O’Reilly in the 20 minutes in Ipswich match shows a typical teenager’s looseness and a contrast to real players alertness. He has a long way to go and I don’t understand the hype around him. Rico despite his all disadvantages, is a tidier player standing on the pitch than OReilly.

Whether this is true or not the only way to improve on this is regular game time, which he seems not to be getting.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

The body language of O’Reilly in the 20 minutes in Ipswich match shows a typical teenager’s looseness and a contrast to real players alertness. He has a long way to go and I don’t understand the hype around him. Rico despite his all disadvantages, is a tidier player standing on the pitch than OReilly.

So what you’re saying is he’s a young player, who needs game time to develop?

 

[alexmcity]

As it often happens, those who don't play in difficult periods are considered better than those who play.
Would be interesting to see O'Reilly in PL games though. I doubt he's ready but who knows...

 

[bondsman]

The body language of O’Reilly in the 20 minutes in Ipswich match shows a typical teenager’s looseness and a contrast to real players alertness. He has a long way to go and I don’t understand the hype around him. Rico despite his all disadvantages, is a tidier player standing on the pitch than OReilly.

Can see what you’re saying but Lewis has had chances and been very poor. O’Reilly hasn’t had them and neither has Wright, the latter doesn’t look ‘loose’ imho he looks more poised than O’Reilly. I’d love to see either start tomorrow.

 

[Gabriel]

He’s not a left-back and he’s not a defensive midfielder. Rather than shoehorn young players into positions where they feel uncomfortable, simply to cover our own squad mismanagement, we should either use him off the bench in the final third or find him a loan where he can develop.

This horrible season is likely a one off and certainly not the time to judge any young player’s future with us.

 

[urban genie]

As it often happens, those who don't play in difficult periods are considered better than those who play.
Would be interesting to see O'Reilly in PL games though. I doubt he's ready but who knows...

At least 15 academy players have been sold off straight from the recenty mutiple trophy winning U18 and EDS teams and played in major leagues here and after a a few games to settle become regulars.

Only seems we don't see them as ready unless thry play 10 mins till the age or 22.

Our midfiled is imobile kova/gundo don't have the legs to box to box it anymore, just give him a go, we have nothing to lose but the 3 points we probably will anyway carrying on regardless

 

[alexmcity]

At least 15 academy players have been sold off straight from the eecenty muti0le.trophy winning U18 amd EDS teams and played in major leagues here and after a a few games to settle become regulars.

Only seems we don't see them as ready unless thry play 10 mins till the age or 22.

Our midfiled is imobile kova/gundo don't have the legs to box to box it anymore, just give him a go, we have nothing to lose but the 3 points we probably will anyway carrying on regardless

I get what you mean, but the teams they move to don't win the biggest trophies. There the expectations are not the same as here. For all his brilliance, Palmer's Chelsea is below Forest: Chelsea are full of young stars and are hardly better than us this season.

If Pep had given much more minutes to the likes of Palmer or Lavia or McAtee in the previous seasons, we wouldn't have won the Treble and 4 in a row: the margin of error was tiny, the inevitable mistakes from inexperience would have cost us.

I'm not against giving more chances to the academy players, but there are trade-offs. Personally, I prefer the trophies.

 

[urban genie]

I get what you mean, but the teams they move to don't win the biggest trophies. There the expectations are not the same as here. For all his brilliance, Palmer's Chelsea is below Forest: Chelsea are full of young stars and are hardly better than us this season.

If Pep had given much more minutes to the likes of Palmer or Lavia or McAtee in the previous seasons, we wouldn't have won the Treble and 4 in a row: the margin of error was tiny, the inevitable mistakes from inexperience would have cost us.

I'm not against giving more chances to the academy players, but there are trade-offs. Personally, I prefer the trophies.

Teams that rely on half fit players and ones on the wane also don't win major trophies either, this season slump was the perfect time to intergrate the younger players as expectation of the title and cups is not as high we are not in a treble, double or even title year unless miricles happen

Also I don't watch city for trophies if I did I would have given up 40 years ago ;-) I can live a season without one and we probably are going to if we carry on with the players we have im Rodris role.

 

[alexmcity]

Teams that rely on half fit players and ones on the wane also don't win major trophies either, this season slump was the perfect time to intergrate the younger players as expectation of the title and cups is not as high we are not in a treble, double or even title year unless miricles happen

Also I don't watch city for trophies if I did I would have given up 40 years ago ;-) I can live a season without one and we probably are going to if we carry on with the players we have im Rodris role.

Making the top 4 is important to the club. It's unclear that the younger players have it in them to achieve that. I'm not against experimenting. But Chelsea's midfield costs about 300m and they are struggling. The idea that if you are young and can run you are better than experienced players is questionable.

As I said, there are trade-offs. Some fans may prefer to watch academy players even it costs the club trophies. Other fans prefer trophies, as this is what the big clubs are supposed to achieve. Fans are entitled of their preferences. I respect those who watch and support City without expecting success, but ultimately having success and winning everything is good.

 

[urban genie]

Making the top 4 is important to the club. It's unclear that the younger players have it in them to achieve that. I'm not against experimenting. But Chelsea's midfield costs about 300m and they are struggling. The idea that if you are young and can run you are better than experienced players is questionable.

As I said, there are trade-offs. Some fans may prefer to watch academy players even it costs the club trophies. Other fans prefer trophies, as this is what the big clubs are supposed to achieve. Fans are entitled of their preferences. I respect those who watch and support City without expecting success, but ultimately having success and winning everything is good.

Your missing my point completely

we have bought new player, get them in the team I say, but the last 2.5.months we have been dire at times and insisting on players starting who were and still won't be up to it, then we had nothing to lose trying to let younger players take their chance.

there was no reason when kova was out not to try Nico in the holding role or wright, rather than persisting with a failed midfield and there was no reason once with no Ake and Dias going off to put him on on wednesday at LB rather than Rico out of position.

not saying they should be first choice because they are academy grown, but the chance to blood them was there and in the DM role still is as kovacic and gundo isn't working and niether will shunting stones or akanji there as has been proven last season.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Dont see Pep playing this kid as a DM. Clearly said he doesnt believe in himself to do it, so not a chance pep trusts him to. Nico barely has 2 games as a DM in his career.

 

[alexmcity]

Your missing my point completely

we have bought new player, get them in the team I say, but the last 2.5.months we have been dire at times and insisting on players starting who were and still won't be up to it, then we had nothing to lose trying to let younger players take their chance.

there was no reason when kova was out not to try Nico in the holding role or wright, rather than persisting with a failed midfield and there was no reason once with no Ake and Dias going off to put him on on wednesday at LB rather than Rico out of position.

not saying they should be first choice because they are academy grown, but the chance to blood them was there and in the DM role still is as kovacic and gundo isn't working and niether will shunting stones or akanji there as has been proven last season.

I wouldn't say 'there was no reason'. In hindsight, given how many games we lost, it wouldn't have been wrong to experiment a bit more. After we lost Rodri, I wrote that we should rely more on the younger players. So, I understand what you mean. But we wanted to stop the sequence of losses as quickly as possible because we still hoped we could fight for the title. Maybe Pep made a mistake to insist on the most experienced players. My point is that it was far from obvious that O'Reilly would have done better than Gundogan or Bernardo. He might have done better or he might not. Pep went for experience over running power. Again, in hindsight, that might have been a mistake. In real time, given our ambition to compete for the title, it was a difficult call.

There are trade-offs between playing experienced players who have won everything and know the system and playing young players who are hungry and can run but lack the experience and knowledge. You don't seem to get the trade-offs here relying too much on hindsight.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

When Phil got a chance to play with the first team, he said he walked up to Pep and told Pep he was ready to play in ANY position for the team. These new youngsters being selective about what role they prefer are playing with fire, shut the fuck up, role your sleeves up and play wherever you are told to play in.

 

[urban genie]

When Phil got a chance to play with the first team, he said he walked up to Pep and told Pep he was ready to play in ANY position for the team. These new youngsters being selective about what role they prefer are playing with fire, shut the fuck up, role your sleeves up and play wherever you are told to play in.

and you know they have been selective how?

 

[urban genie]

I wouldn't say 'there was no reason'. In hindsight, given how many games we lost, it wouldn't have been wrong to experiment a bit more. After we lost Rodri, I wrote that we should rely more on the younger players. So, I understand what you mean. But we wanted to stop the sequence of losses as quickly as possible because we still hoped we could fight for the title. Maybe Pep made a mistake to insist on the most experienced players. My point is that it was far from obvious that O'Reilly would have done better than Gundogan or Bernardo. He might have done better or he might not. Pep went for experience over running power. Again, in hindsight, that might have been a mistake. In real time, given our ambition to compete for the title, it was a difficult call.

There are trade-offs between playing experienced players who have won everything and know the system and playing young players who are hungry and can run but lack the experience and knowledge. You don't seem to get the trade-offs here relying too much on hindsight.

3 defeats in we could all see gundo was'nt working, not his fault he shouldn'r be expected to do the DM role now, berny has been flogged to death for 4 years again it was clear tge extra burdem was affecting him.

seem more like foolish pride on Peps part to me too stuborn to change what has been trusted.

anyway whats done it done, we will make top 4 I am sure and can stil lwin 2 cups, if that happens the 2 months of pissing about form wise will be forgotten.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

and you know they have been selective how?

Nico had an interview where he kept mention how he didn't see himself as DM or something like that, just play the role the manager tells you to.

 

[sir baconface]

Making the top 4 is important to the club. It's unclear that the younger players have it in them to achieve that. I'm not against experimenting. But Chelsea's midfield costs about 300m and they are struggling. The idea that if you are young and can run you are better than experienced players is questionable.

Yer, yer, they’ve been kept out by serial stellar performances from such greyhound players as Gundo, Walker, Kev, Kovacic, Bernardo, Grealish Nunes and co. To such an extent that even giving them minutes would throw points away…

Oh hang on a minute.