82 | Rico Lewis - 2024/25

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One of, if not the main argument in favour of Rico, is that he has a high football IQ. You argue that he is the only one in the midfield with legs and never stops running. If you are correct in your assessment, the football IQ argument is on its arse, because no midfielder with both energy/running ability and a high footballing IQ, should be seen running towards their own goal, 15 yards behind play, multiple times per game.

If he has the legs, he should more often than not, be able to get back into position. If he doesn’t have the legs but has the football IQ, he wouldn’t be constantly out of position to begin with.
He is in that position thanks to his team mates who made some terrible passes and lost the ball. Akanji was also caught off position likewise. We gave the ball away and this caused the a lot of issues. Rico was not directly responsible for any goal. Imagine if Rico was left for dead for the 4th goal, this page would be calling for his head.

If I'm looking for a player to blame on Saturday (not that i like this anyway), then Rico will not be among them.

Foden was terrible.
Stones was terrible.
Walker was diabolical.
Bernado was terrible.
Gundogan was terrible.

There's enough bad performance on Saturday and Rico would be the least to be criticised.
This is my opinion of course.
 
Lewis is the only player with legs in the current midfield. He never stops running all game. Gundogan, Foden and Bernado are worse.
People blaming Lewis are not looking at the bigger picture. Others just blame Lewis because Mcateer is not playing.

So he runs a lot? There’s running and then there’s running without real effect.

“Mcateer” is mentioned because he was recalled this season, bigged up, then left to fester on the bench while others struggle. He was deemed good enough for the first team squad, then cold-shouldered like others before him. We haven’t seen anything of what he can do and will no doubt fcuk off if that persists.

I’d be interested to hear your explanation of the bigger picture here.
 
The midfield set-up on Saturday did not do Lewis any favours whatsoever. The young lad should not be carrying this City team with the experienced players we have, but he got no protection whatsoever from the others. At times he was all alone in the centre because Silva had drifted out wide and Gundogan's legs have gone and is not mobile enough. He needs resting and taking out of the firing line. Maybe that is why Mcatee doesn't get a game because Pep will think it will ruin his confidence.
 
He’s not going to be here in 2 years. He’s neither this nor that, and while he is a useful utility man, he does nothing exceptionally, while being small, not fast and not the strongest.

Lovely kid, love his energy, but I’m just not convinced he has enough of a complete package to make it at City. Sorry.
(@HypnoticBlue looks like you beat me to it.)

The way I see Rico is that currently he’s a great utility squad player who’s been forced into starting every week because of the injury crisis. He’s a great link player, one of very few players who runs with the ball, when the team is playing well, he speeds up our movement of the ball and that creates tons of space further up the pitch to get Haaland, the wingers the ball in situations they can be dangerous.

It would be really short sighted imo to decide a (just turned) 20 year old is never going to be good enough to start just because he isn’t right now, and even if he never gets there, every squad needs these kind of players who can play any position the team needs them to at an OK level when the rest of the team is firing.

Remember midfield is sacred to Pep, Foden barely gets trusted with a game there at 24, loads of good players have not been trusted there by Pep so he must see something special at Rico to be putting him in there as a teenager and I’m more than happy to trust his judgment.

IMO it’s more likely that Rico learns rapidly from this experience (much more than he did from being a small cog in an all-conquering city side) and it might take him coming out of the team for a bit to make the improvements and grow from these lessons, but next time he’s called upon to be a starter for an extended time he’ll be much better and shows he belongs.

Remember this kid is younger than Savio, Bobb, McAtee, Doku and basically everyone else in the squad. He should be expected to be inconsistent and make mistakes, he’s barely started his career in football and he’s being asked to play a new position, the most difficult position in a Pep system, in a broken team with zero confidence.


Look at how good Curtis Jones is now, when he was being relied on by Klopp 18 months ago he was a glaring weakness in the Liverpool side who got a lot of the same criticisms (what does he do exactly??). Also worth mentioning Jones had his breakout after a change in manager, and we have one of those coming up in 12/24 months. So the least I expect is for him to still be here for 1 season post-Pep.
 
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The midfield set-up on Saturday did not do Lewis any favours whatsoever. The young lad should not be carrying this City team with the experienced players we have, but he got no protection whatsoever from the others. At times he was all alone in the centre because Silva had drifted out wide and Gundogan's legs have gone and is not mobile enough. He needs resting and taking out of the firing line. Maybe that is why Mcatee doesn't get a game because Pep will think it will ruin his confidence.
The lengths we will go to in order to rationalize some of Pep's rather strange decisions...he helped in putting this squad together and now it's all gone wrong. He would never have extended if the club had forced this flawed squad on him. His over reliance on certain players, like Rodri, his unwillingness to trust certain players, especially academy products, with the bizarre exception of Rico Lewis, and his insistence on relying on players way past it is blowing up in our face. God knows Pep has earned the right to be considered an absolute all time great manager but right now he's helped cook up one shitty dish and we have no option but to eat it. You live by the Pep, you die by the Pep...
The question is not has Pep played a role in where we now find ourselves as he has 100% done, there's no debate. The question is does he get a pass in light of all he's accomplished at the club. The answer should be a resounding YES. But this being sport at the highest level with people being paid millions, Pep included, his actions as a manager will be scrutinized until we get back to the level he brought us to or until he doesn't and moves on, simple as...
 
The lengths we will go to in order to rationalize some of Pep's rather strange decisions...he helped in putting this squad together and now it's all gone wrong. He would never have extended if the club had forced this flawed squad on him. His over reliance on certain players, like Rodri, his unwillingness to trust certain players, especially academy products, with the bizarre exception of Rico Lewis, and his insistence on relying on players way past it is blowing up in our face. God knows Pep has earned the right to be considered an absolute all time great manager but right now he's helped cook up one shitty dish and we have no option but to eat it. You live by the Pep, you die by the Pep...
The question is not has Pep played a role in where we now find ourselves as he has 100% done, there's no debate. The question is does he get a pass in light of all he's accomplished at the club. The answer should be a resounding YES. But this being sport at the highest level with people being paid millions, Pep included, his actions as a manager will be scrutinized until we get back to the level he brought us to or until he doesn't and moves on, simple as...

Fucking weirdos some of you lot.
 
Yep, God forbid anyone expresses anything resembling free thought...
It's strange because the same people trying to rationalise not playing the likes of McAtee, Wright, O'Reilly etc. will insist on playing Rico Lewis who is a glaring weakness in this City team. I guess it's because City made a decision a while ago to have Rico as the poster boy, non stop coverage etc. in all things City. Subsequently, some people just can't stand the thought that maybe he is never going to reach the required level with us. It's like some sort of cognitive dissonance. Even Pep gets it wrong sometimee, he is just a human after all. There is no shame in that, Rico can and will have a good career elsewhere, just not at this level.
 
If Rico is the issue why was he our best player in the first few weeks of the season when the team was working much better? Did the performance improve against Bournemouth when he started on the bench or were we fucking dreadful until he came on the pitch?
 
It's strange because the same people trying to rationalise not playing the likes of McAtee, Wright, O'Reilly etc. will insist on playing Rico Lewis who is a glaring weakness in this City team. I guess it's because City made a decision a while ago to have Rico as the poster boy, non stop coverage etc. in all things City. Subsequently, some people just can't stand the thought that maybe he is never going to reach the required level with us. It's like some sort of cognitive dissonance. Even Pep gets it wrong sometimee, he is just a human after all. There is no shame in that, Rico can and will have a good career elsewhere, just not at this level.
Be careful H94, you'll be called a weirdo...
 
Absolutely the wrong player to blame for our current meltdown.
Agreed. One player is not the issue. Unfortunately a number of things have come together at the same time and created the perfect storm. Injuries , loss of form , age catching up on one or two and going into the season a little undercooked (we got away with a few games early doors). We do need a combination of a refresh and players returning from injury. Gundogan & Walker look like its a season too far. Kdb looked bright when he came on but even if he stays another season we need to go big on a replacement. A lot of work to be done but no way would I be letting Rico go at this stage. Lets be honest if we were judging Phil on his performances this year they fall well short but we know thats just a form issue.
 
Absolutely the wrong player to blame for our current meltdown.
Who’s blaming any one player? Get yer specs on and look at these threads:

Walker
Gundogan
Foden
Stones
Grealish
Savinho
Ake
Doku
Silva
Pep
Txiki
Uncle Tom Cobley.

Only the tea lady is still in credit with brownie points. Unfortunately she’s not available for Anfield on Sunday.
 
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What exactly does this guy do for us? Sorry but every player can pass side ways and backwards without having any impact in the game. Get some League One player he will do the same ffs.
 
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