9/11 documentary now

[Kazzydeyna]

What I don't understand about this thread and others is that the OFFICIAL story of 9/11 is itself a conspiracy theory.

The theory being that 19 young lads, led by bin laden from a cave, assimilated themselves into American culture, learned to fly passenger jets by taking lessons in cessnas and using flight simulator, kept everything secret (that's the conspiracy bit) and the rest is history.

Nobody has ever explained though how they managed to hijack the planes hundreds of miles from their targets and then were able to navigate, literally with pin point accuracy, to 3 of their 4 targets. Despite their flight school instructors stating on the record that they were poor pilots of cessnas never mind fast passenger jets.

The official story may well be true, i don't know, and neither does anybody else, I just have serious doubts for lots of reasons.

 

[west didsblue]

How about these guys?

http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/798-who-are-these-2000-architects-and-engineers.html



How about these guys?

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

I wouldn't trust any website with "911truth" as part of its url. For every conspiracy theory I've seen, I've read convincing evidence that debunks it. There isn't a single one that stands any serious scrutiny.
There are probably 10 million people in the USA who could legitimately call themselves qualified engineers or architects and the fact that a couple of thousand of them align themselves with conspiracy bullshit is hardly a surprise. I'm willing to bet that the number of these 2000 that are qualified to highest level in the appropriate fields of engineering and are acknowledged as leading experts by their peers could be counted on one hand.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

I wouldn't trust any website with "911truth" as part of its url.

Stopped reading after that.

 

[west didsblue]

Stopped reading after that.

Fair enough. It'll save you having to argue against logic.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Fair enough. It'll save you having to argue against closed-mindedness.

Edited for accuracy.

 

[purplenose]

Fair enough. It'll save you having to argue against logic.

Thats the point exactly isnt it....so much about that day carries little logic....again a bloke with a few hours on a Cessna being able to fly a boeing 757, a fairly heavy fuel load on board too boot, and hit a wall in a way that made dropping the bouncing bomb on the dambusters raid a simple and slightly mundane task that only an idiot could fail to complete! That is a highly illogical turn of events.

 

[west didsblue]

Thats the point exactly isnt it....so much about that day carries little logic....again a bloke with a few hours on a Cessna being able to fly a boeing 757, a fairly heavy fuel load on board too boot, and hit a wall in a way that made dropping the bouncing bomb on the dambusters raid a simple and slightly mundane task that only an idiot could fail to complete! That is a highly illogical turn of events.

Not sure where you've got this few hours on a Cessna from. The hijacker who flew flight 77 into the Pentagon had a Commercial Pilots License which he had qualified for two years earlier.

 

[TCIB]

I watch the building come down, no this just does not happen. I wish i could put this to bed in my head but the third building and how they fell etc is to much for me just to accept. Thermite was at the scene due to micro-spheres of iron, no amount of billowing effect can replicate this, the heat needs to be sustained super directly.

Something just smells wrong about it all to me.

 

[purplenose]

Not sure where you've got this few hours on a Cessna from. The hijacker who flew flight 77 into the Pentagon had a Commercial Pilots License which he had qualified for two years earlier.

He had never flown a commercial airliner, he had lessons in cessna 172s and was a pretty bloody poor pilot by all accounts. He would not have been capable of hitting that wall in the fashion that it was hit.....thats before we even attempt to find a justification for hitting the outer wall and not just diving into the middle of the place. Terrorist are generally not thick and someone will have thought it through. After all the two aircraft that hit the twin towers simply made sure they hit the towers and didnt risk hitting anything else first as you say logic.

I havent said I believe in conspiracy theory or otherwise, but equally it is somewhat hard to believe the official story when there is very clear evidence to suggest that it may not be the true story, with the Pentagon attack there are serious questions that remain un answered, ones that somebody with a basic knowledge of aviation and military activities can see very clearly simply dont add up.

 

[west didsblue]

He had never flown a commercial airliner, he had lessons in cessna 172s and was a pretty bloody poor pilot by all accounts. He would not have been capable of hitting that wall in the fashion that it was hit.....thats before we even attempt to find a justification for hitting the outer wall and not just diving into the middle of the place. Terrorist are generally not thick and someone will have thought it through. After all the two aircraft that hit the twin towers simply made sure they hit the towers and didnt risk hitting anything else first as you say logic.

I havent said I believe in conspiracy theory or otherwise, but equally it is somewhat hard to believe the official story when there is very clear evidence to suggest that it may not be the true story, with the Pentagon attack there are serious questions that remain un answered, ones that somebody with a basic knowledge of aviation and military activities can see very clearly simply dont add up.

How do you know he was trying to hit the Pentagon in the way that he did? If the impact point was planned prior to the event I would agree with you however there's no evidence that this was the case and his target was more than likely the Pentagon in general not a specific point on one of its walls.