9/11 documentary now

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west didsblue said:
No he didn't. It's nonsense that's been completely debunked.

That's a load of rubbish as well. Half wits putting two and two together and making five. There's always gullible people who believe this shit which is why they do it.
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Half wits lol loads of it is official government information, guess Rumsfield is a half wit.
 
manctheknife said:
I was reasonably interested in your dummies guide to tall building structural behaviour, until you said the magic words....Controlled demolition. If I could be arsed I would ask several questions on the logistics of such....but really...is that all ya got?
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Your theory conflicts with fact and the laws of physics , it requires not only an event that has never happened in the history of tall building structure to occur, but to repeat three times in the same place on the same day and for all three building to drop into their own footprint.

Is that all you have ?
 
Pablo1 said:
Why do people who try and debunk things use extremes like the royal family being lizards to try and prove their point?
I don't believe in many outlandish things. I don't believe in ghosts, I don't believe in UFO's, I don't believe in fake moon landings or JFK, I don't believe that the planes never hit as some do but I do believe in the notion that some humans are fulfilled by greed, power and corruption. A dangerous combination for those desperate to protect what they have.
I'm not that arsed that many think it's bollocks and what they've been told by the press is all hunky dory but im certainly open minded enough to question just how many benefitted from the atrocities.
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I'm only questioning the strange minds of the conspiracy theorists.

The thing is, the 9/11 atrocity was awful enough in itself. Isn't the truth enough for them?

Take any moment in time, imagine a scenario, and you could cobble together some claptrap about helicopter pilots firing missiles and whatever else you want to put into the mix to 'prove' your point.

They watch too many films and believe James Bond is a real life person, some sort of secret club rules the world, the queen is a lizard, and it's just complete bollocks.

They believe it, I don't, and as I wrote, people have consciences. It is impossible that an inside job like 9/11 organised and carried out by the US government so many years ago would by now not have had someone spilling the beans.

Think about it?

Nobody has said anything because nobody was 'in on it'. It wasn't an organised act by the US government any more than the 7/7 bombings in London were organised by MI5.

They were acts of terrorism carried out by lunatics with warped minds. There is nothing else it could be, whatever your view of the press.

Conspiracy theories exist and persist because there was no conspiracy and nobody can come come forward and admit it happened, and they exploit that.
 
west didsblue said:
200 tonnes of anything travelling at 250 knots will cause a lot of damage particularly if half that weight is a flammable liquid.
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It's the very specific type of damage that I'm questioning.

Can you show other examples where something can travel over 350 feet through a number of reinforced concrete walls then leave a perfectly neat circular exit hole? (Other than bunker busting bombs/missiles)
 
blueonblue said:
Your theory conflicts with fact and the laws of physics , it requires not only an event that has never happened in the history of tall building structure to occur, but to repeat three times in the same place on the same day and for all three building to drop into their own footprint.

Is that all you have ?
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And that's physics is it....look mate, I'm parking this, but I have no issue on the WT7 theories. ..that was probably pulled.
 
Just as a point of interest, as there seems to be a lot said on here about the conspiracy theorists and what they believe (i.e. queens a lizard etc.).

Are there any historical conspiracy theories that actually were proven true in the course of time? and for what reason, whistle blower (as seems to be the common thought on human nature etc.).

Id genuinely be interested to know, not ever really having delved into conspiracy theories before.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Which of course adds to the theory. It was the absence of your man in the street pointing his camera in the air at a low flying plane that I found strange
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I've always just put that down to no camera phones at the time and the pentagon not being in a major tourist area. What does get me though is the lack of CCTV. More than one camera picked up the plane going in, so why dont they release the footage!?
I 100% believe it was a plane by the way, i dont think it was a missile or anything like that, which makes it strange why they wont just release the cctv
 
purplenose said:
It is confidential because it doesnt exist
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You think there was only 1 CCTV camera there? At the Pentagon?
Im not a conspiracy theorist, i dont think a missle hit the pentagon or anything like that. I believe a plane hit it and that plane was flown by hijackers, but theres no way there is only 1 grainy bit of 1 frame a second footage
 
jacko74 said:
It's the very specific type of damage that I'm questioning.

Can you show other examples where something can travel over 350 feet through a number of reinforced concrete walls then leave a perfectly neat circular exit hole? (Other than bunker busting bombs/missiles)
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The aircraft's main landing gear caused that hole. The landing gear is the densest part of the structure of the aircraft made of solid metal and would have penetrated the furthest.
 
west didsblue said:
Anyone who doesn't believe what happened try googling the authors of the NIST report and you'll find that they are acknowledged experts in their fields with relatively few search results that are anything to do with 9/11. Google any of the authors of any of the conspiracy theories and you'll find that although they are self proclaimed experts in their fields, the only search results you'll get will be related to the nonsense they come up with about 9/11.

The simple truth is 19 Al Qaeda members hijacked 4 aircraft and crashed 3 of them into their targets. There were no controlled explosions and WTC 7 collapsed in the way that was explained in the NIST report due to severe damage from falling debris and multiple fires burning all day with no attempt to put them out. This weakened the structure at critical points causing the collapse.
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Did these fires also contact the bbc and let them know in advance that wtc7 was about to collapse?

I only ask because the bbc worldwide announced - live - that wtc7 had collapsed. 30 minutes before it did so. You can see wtc7 standing proud behind the newscaster as he announced it had just collapsed.

It didn't fall for a further 30 minutes or so.

Did the fires also decide to burn around a "hijackers" passport? A passport which was miraculously found in the rubble. The person it belonged to had been vapourised but the paper passport had survived.

Bloody magic them fires aren't they?
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Did these fires also contact the bbc and let them know in advance that wtc7 was about to collapse?

I only ask because the bbc worldwide announced - live - that wtc7 had collapsed. 30 minutes before it did so. You can see wtc7 standing proud behind the newscaster as he announced it had just collapsed.

It didn't fall for a further 30 minutes or so.

Did the fires also decide to burn around a "hijackers" passport? A passport which was miraculously found in the rubble. The person it belonged to had been vapourised but the paper passport had survived.

Bloody magic them fires aren't they?
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Luggage tags, other passports, bank cards, mail, even seat cushions from the plane etc were all found in the rubble. It is strange i know, but it happened.

Same with the columbia space shuttle disaster, a lot of things you wouldnt expect to survive the explosion did. Even the earthworms they had onboard for experiments survived that.
 
CTID1988 said:
Luggage tags, other passports, bank cards, mail, even seat cushions from the plane etc were all found in the rubble. It is strange i know, but it happened.

Same with the columbia space shuttle disaster, a lot of things you wouldnt expect to survive the explosion did. Even the earthworms they had onboard for experiments survived that.
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Okay but the hijackers passport? Really? Just floated to ground ready to be discovered?

How about the bbc announcing wtc7 before it happened?

I have no clue what did happen but I know what didn't.
 
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