9/11 - More evidence it was set up by people in the shadows

I agree that there are some ridiculous assertions made about 9/11. That planes were involved at no point probably being the most outlandish. What I find just as ridiculous though are people who think there are no unresolved questions, the 'two planes crashed into two buildings, I don't need to know anything else' brigade, and worse, think it's disrespectful to the victims to try and answer them.

"We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse"
NIST
 
Soulboy said:
Go back to your TV screens people, the Government is looking after you...

Go back to watching X Factor and You've Been Framed... the Government is looking after you...


This x a Trillion.
 
mcfcliam said:
Jesus...are people seriously denying planes were involved?

Can we have the me in white coats, please..?

Now without wishing to sound like a nutter, you really do have to have an open mind about most things.

And there are many unanswered questions about 9/11, even though my thought process finds it difficult to accept the theories put forward.

But... we only know what we are told. And who tells us?

How do you KNOW what happened at 9/11... other than the media told you.

Always question everything. I do it with City so why not with everything else!

I would hate to have a closed mind like yourself. That way lies totalitarianism.
 
bluemoonmatt said:
jay_mcfc said:
there's far too much smelly stuff around 9/11 to just ignore it.
Only because there are so many idiotic nutjob consipracy theorist's about. I find talk of 9/11 being anything other than a tragic terrible act of heinous terrorism distasteful and disrespectful.

Well said.
 
Soulboy said:
mcfcliam said:
Jesus...are people seriously denying planes were involved?

Can we have the me in white coats, please..?

Now without wishing to sound like a nutter, you really do have to have an open mind about most things.

And there are many unanswered questions about 9/11, even though my thought process finds it difficult to accept the theories put forward.

But... we only know what we are told. And who tells us?

How do you KNOW what happened at 9/11... other than the media told you.

Always question everything. I do it with City so why not with everything else!

I would hate to have a closed mind like yourself. That way lies totalitarianism.
Fair point about having an open mind, and I do with most things. This though, the media didn't have to report on much as we could all see with our own eyes what was happening, and that was a group of terrorists hijacking planes and using them as missiles in an attack on the most famous landmark the USA had to offer. Mohammed Atta was proven to have taken his flying lessons at a school in Florida I think it was, and he was the one who hijacked the first plane. I can't really see why an open mind needs to be used on this particular event.
 
Pigeonho said:
Soulboy said:
Now without wishing to sound like a nutter, you really do have to have an open mind about most things.

And there are many unanswered questions about 9/11, even though my thought process finds it difficult to accept the theories put forward.

But... we only know what we are told. And who tells us?

How do you KNOW what happened at 9/11... other than the media told you.

Always question everything. I do it with City so why not with everything else!

I would hate to have a closed mind like yourself. That way lies totalitarianism.
Fair point about having an open mind, and I do with most things. This though, the media didn't have to report on much as we could all see with our own eyes what was happening, and that was a group of terrorists hijacking planes and using them as missiles in an attack on the most famous landmark the USA had to offer. Mohammed Atta was proven to have taken his flying lessons at a school in Florida I think it was, and he was the one who hijacked the first plane. I can't really see why an open mind needs to be used on this particular event.

The reason why you should keep an open mind is summed up in your post... you state that it was clear and we could all see with our own eyes what happened.

Well that's not true, is it.

You weren't there, you have simply seen and heard what you were told. It's probably true, but don't put it past governments to lie and make up stories to go to war.

WMD anyone?

You have absolutely no idea who hijacked what or who did what... other than what you have been told. And now people are telling you different things... so unless you always believe the government and never believe independent analysts, then I suppose you can go on with your position.

Me? I never trust anyone... including the independent analysts!
 
Soulboy said:
Pigeonho said:
Fair point about having an open mind, and I do with most things. This though, the media didn't have to report on much as we could all see with our own eyes what was happening, and that was a group of terrorists hijacking planes and using them as missiles in an attack on the most famous landmark the USA had to offer. Mohammed Atta was proven to have taken his flying lessons at a school in Florida I think it was, and he was the one who hijacked the first plane. I can't really see why an open mind needs to be used on this particular event.

The reason why you should keep an open mind is summed up in your post... you state that it was clear and we could all see with our own eyes what happened.

Well that's not true, is it.

You weren't there, you have simply seen and heard what you were told. It's probably true, but don't put it past governments to lie and make up stories to go to war.

WMD anyone?

You have absolutely no idea who hijacked what or who did what... other than what you have been told. And now people are telling you different things... so unless you always believe the government and never believe independent analysts, then I suppose you can go on with your position.

Me? I never trust anyone... including the independent analysts!
Fair point mate, fair point.
 
Soulboy said:
Pigeonho said:
Fair point about having an open mind, and I do with most things. This though, the media didn't have to report on much as we could all see with our own eyes what was happening, and that was a group of terrorists hijacking planes and using them as missiles in an attack on the most famous landmark the USA had to offer. Mohammed Atta was proven to have taken his flying lessons at a school in Florida I think it was, and he was the one who hijacked the first plane. I can't really see why an open mind needs to be used on this particular event.

The reason why you should keep an open mind is summed up in your post... you state that it was clear and we could all see with our own eyes what happened.

Well that's not true, is it.

You weren't there, you have simply seen and heard what you were told. It's probably true, but don't put it past governments to lie and make up stories to go to war.

WMD anyone?

You have absolutely no idea who hijacked what or who did what... other than what you have been told. And now people are telling you different things... so unless you always believe the government and never believe independent analysts, then I suppose you can go on with your position.

Me? I never trust anyone... including the independent analysts!

No, we haven't "simply seen and heard what you were told", we all watched the TV footage LIVE, we saw the second plane fly into the tower. This wasn't Independence Day, or War of the Worlds, there wasn't some bloke with a computer creating digital images for us all to see, this actually happened.

Ok, so whether Mohammed Atta was involved or not we can't say, as we're not the CIA or the FBI, but what's clear to all is that terrorists were involved, they took the planes, they flew the planes, and they crashed the planes. Anyone who says otherwise has had their common sense, and their intelligence, surgically removed.

And as for "independant analysts", well I've yet to find one, anyone talking about 9/11 has an agenda, whether it be to pedal their latest book or continue the conspiracy propaganda.

Yes, Governments lie, we all know this, but the scale of the lie, the people involved, for something like 9/11 is just so vast as to be completely unfeasible.
 
just watched the video

certainly makes you think (well makes me think anyway)

one thing that i can not accept is how many people such a conspiracy would involve and how they could keep it quiet for so long with no leaks

i'm still of the opinion it was real!
 
bluemoonmatt said:
samy said:
Maybe ?? But whos to say were wrong though ?? open ya eyes more lad u see a bigger picture
How wide do you have to open you're eyes to see this...
WTC_airplane_crash.jpg

or this ...
flight-175-just-before-impacting-the-south-tower.jpg

Personally I think those and all the other documentaries and pictures I have seen is enough to convince me what happened that day. People who think differently, I genuinely believe are seriously in need of professional help.

For gods sake can we just not show some respect to the people who died that day.


I do show respect for those who died Ive not said anything offences to them I think it was a horrible thing that happened but I believe it wasn't just an act of terroism from one group of extremist I believe there's a lot more to this, I respect peoples views on what happened that day..
 

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