A night with Les Chapman.

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I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
 
u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
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Why does he have to like someone who he works with ?? Full marks to Les for not being a hypocrite and telling it how it was,irrespective of his opinion.He gave an honest answer as far as he was concerned !!
By the way I was a Mancini inner !!
 
That's the difference between knowing mancini personally like les did and knowing mancini like most fans do from behind the camera.

No one can dispute Mancini's record for us fans but for whatever reason he rubs people up the wrong way.

Mancini's place is cemented in club history as is Les Chapman.

We have all moved on, roll on Sunday !!
 
So if Mancini weighs the same as a duck….

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onkbubwAqRQ[/youtube]
 
Were Les's actual words that he 'hated Manicin' or that he disliked him? If it was hated then I am sorry my admiration/respect for Les has lessened. To really hate someone they must have done something really, really bad (IMHO) and just because Mr Mancini, or anyone else for that matter, didn't stop to chat to you when he had a job to do and a role to play, is a little bit naive. If Les said he 'disliked Mancini' then that is different, there are lots of people I disliked that I worked with, we had a professional relationship and got on with our jobs. However I didn't hate them and can only think of one person in my life that I really hated and they are dead and gone now.

Just an observation and my personal opinion. I admire/respect Les for all he has done for the club and all he has done for the wider community. I admire Mancini for all he did for the club and will always admire him for the statement he made at a PoB meeting when he said he 'would personally drive the bus over the Mancunian way to pull down the 35 years banner' when we won a trophy. Yes he probably said it to endear himself to the fans but he said it and we won trophies.
 
TGR said:
And yet another opportunity to 'trash Mancini' appears.
FFS guys just let it go.
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Read the OP again. He was actually questioning Chappy's character for not liking Mancini. Heck, the OP even called Chappy "very bitter and twisted". What more did he need to do to persuade you that this thread wasn't about trashing Mancini?
 
u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
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Can anyone corroborate this? Seems unlikely to me that someone like Chappy who's been at City as long as he has, would ever be as open about his negative feelings about any manager. Also it's not really something which I think is necessary for him to say so long after Mancini's gone.

Having said all that, another example of why Mancini was so universally disliked by the people who had to deal with him on a day to day basis.
 
Falastur said:
TGR said:
And yet another opportunity to 'trash Mancini' appears.
FFS guys just let it go.
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Read the OP again. He was actually questioning Chappy's character for not liking Mancini. Heck, the OP even called Chappy "very bitter and twisted". What more did he need to do to persuade you that this thread wasn't about trashing Mancini?
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And you need to read my post again. I didn't mention the OP as unlike you I can read.
I said 'opportunity'.

However the kit man not getting on with Mancini is hardly something we didn't know is it?
 
I dont understand why not liking someone would make anyone 'bitter and twisted'. That doesnt necessarily follow; he just doesnt like him. There are plenty of blokes in work with me I cant stand at all, but Im not bitter about that in any way. I think fair play to Chappy for being honest
 
Another example of why Mancini was disliked? That's pushing it a bit.

An example of someone who "hated" Mancini apparently, but it seems he never spoke to him. Hard to generate a level of hatred when no words have been exchanged.



BillyShears said:
u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
Click to expand...

Can anyone corroborate this? Seems unlikely to me that someone like Chappy who's been at City as long as he has, would ever be as open about his negative feelings about any manager. Also it's not really something which I think is necessary for him to say so long after Mancini's gone.

Having said all that, another example of why Mancini was so universally disliked by the people who had to deal with him on a day to day basis.
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u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
Click to expand...

I am grateful to Mancini for all the success we had under him, but at the end it has become clear that he was losing it! And credit to Les for stating what he sees as accurate! Too many mealy-mouthed folk in football!
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
Click to expand...

I am grateful to Mancini for all the success we had under him, but at the end it has become clear that he was losing it! And credit to Les for stating what he sees as accurate! Too many mealy-mouthed folk in football!
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But did he ever say it to Mancini's face? Probably not. He wouldn't have the bottle - He's not important. He may have been around the club for a while but he's only the f*ckin kit man for God's sake; we could get another one just as good in ten minutes.

Too many back stabbers in football, and if what the OP says is true, Chappy is just another one in a long queue. If he had any class, he would have responded diplomatically, or just kept his stupid mouth shut rather than courting even more undeserved 'celebrity'.
 
u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
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I met and spoke with him a few weeks ago and I felt the same

After his tirade of abuse I mentioned he was a winner and he sorted the team out straight away when he arrived. Unlike the current manager!
 
Eccles Blue said:
Were Les's actual words that he 'hated Manicin' or that he disliked him? If it was hated then I am sorry my admiration/respect for Les has lessened. To really hate someone they must have done something really, really bad (IMHO) and just because Mr Mancini, or anyone else for that matter, didn't stop to chat to you when he had a job to do and a role to play, is a little bit naive. If Les said he 'disliked Mancini' then that is different, there are lots of people I disliked that I worked with, we had a professional relationship and got on with our jobs. However I didn't hate them and can only think of one person in my life that I really hated and they are dead and gone now.

Just an observation and my personal opinion. I admire/respect Les for all he has done for the club and all he has done for the wider community. I admire Mancini for all he did for the club and will always admire him for the statement he made at a PoB meeting when he said he 'would personally drive the bus over the Mancunian way to pull down the 35 years banner' when we won a trophy. Yes he probably said it to endear himself to the fans but he said it and we won trophies.
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When I spoke with him he used the words hate........there were a number of things he seemed to hate about him and they seemed very petty.
 
u2fme2 said:
I and some friends went to a function last night in honor
of city's Kit man Les Chapman hosted by Ian cheeseman.
and one question he was ask was,
What are your views on Mancini and the success we had under him.

And i was staggered to her him say, He hated then man couldn't stand
him, His words not mine, and that in all the time he was there they
never spoke a single word to each other.
and if he had stayed the likes of, silva. Aguero. and Toure
would have left.

For me dear old Les came across as a very bitter and twisted man,
For me i will always very grateful for the success Mancini brought to city.
Click to expand...




ian cheeseman told me the same thing weeks ago. no smoke without fire, i`m glad mancini left
 
Hate, dislike does it matter, you asked him an opinion what should he have done lied. I respect what Mancini did for us but there was obviously a problem with him.
 
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