I am glad that other fellow Blues are posting positive comments. It seems the silent majority accept and welcome the new system. It is here to stay, it perhaps could be tweaked a little but we will never get 100% agreement. In Paris the moaner said it should be nearer the ground. In Madrid it was too far from the City.
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A Positive from the new euro away ticket system?
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pedigreeblue
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As opposed to checking wristbands, tickets and Passports now !Because you're relying on the home club checking names and passports on entry which is never going to happen.
I have no problem with the ticketing bit. But lets ditch the wristbands, not a requirement from the authorities and not needed.I am glad that other fellow Blues are posting positive comments. It seems the silent majority accept and welcome the new system. It is here to stay, it perhaps could be tweaked a little but we will never get 100% agreement. In Paris the moaner said it should be nearer the ground. In Madrid it was too far from the City.
And also get the info out sooner, my letter arrived on Tuesday, I had travelled on Monday.
Luckily I had the email.
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It's a bloody good job I have email because my letter arrived Tuesday afternoon when I was in Valencia, why the hell city sent them out so late with a bank holiday Monday slaps of amateurism. I do agree it lessens the knobs getting tickets and if done right at the stadium it should all be smooth, alas the twats in the police saw it was pointless.
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Except they didn't. All they checked was tickets.As opposed to checking wristbands, tickets and Passports now !
In front of me in the queue were 3 Spanish lads who didn't have a letter, just passports
I was trying to listen when they were served, but couldn't work out what they were saying. The girl who served them looked puzzled and had to go away to speak to someone else... But they left with 3 tickets
I was trying to listen when they were served, but couldn't work out what they were saying. The girl who served them looked puzzled and had to go away to speak to someone else... But they left with 3 tickets
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If it wasn't for the majestic Willy Caballero it would be the best thing to come out of this season. Lets pray they come up with a plan to achieve similar results domestically too.
growl
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Are we gonna be happy when all domestic away days are subject to the new system?
pedigreeblue
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Which makes eisystem redundant ! If the home Stadium did what we were told they were meant to do, ie check passportExcept they didn't. All they checked was tickets.
Yes, so that needs sorting out. The instructions given to us by MCFC said "You will be required to show Photo ID at the stadium, along with your match ticket and wristband to gain entry. If you do not have all of the required security materials, you will not be allowed entry." If that was actually enforced, and i can't see why it cant be, i see no reason why tickets (with name and passport number printed on) couldnt be mailed out !Except they didn't. All they checked was tickets.
If home clubs don't follow the correct protocol they could be punished. All the expense setting up the ticket collection point,paying staff and ferrying them to Madrid would be saved, as would time spent fannying about collecting the tickets.
The Cynic in me does say though, that any interest the Club has on giving the incentive of travelling on a 'official' trip (as you can collect tickets on the flight over) would be taken away !
squirtyflower
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I have no issue with the club controlling the distribution of tickets, they have the right to to that.
I'm also glad more people are getting tickets on their 'loyalty' now 'ticket' points than did before, at least now I'm guaranteed a ticket.
However there are still people attending the games who are well down the queue. There were quite a few blues who booked travel based on the ticket sales for PSG away being so sluggish. Then it sold out at 9000 points or so, which was much lower than both Sevila and Moenchengladbach.
There were numerous blues in the City end who had no where near 9000 points. In fact some didn't even have seasoncards. So those of you thinking its curbed whoring, it's stopped some but hasn't stopped all. The people sat near me looked like they hadn't been to an away game for donkey's years.
Three friends came over on the Thompson trip, they were given their tickets and their wristbands but weren't made to put them on, yet at the collection point you had too. They were talking to a large family of blues, eighteen of them altogether who had ten seasoncards between them, all had got tickets through their branch. So eight blues on about 9000 points missed out to these loyal blues without cards.
So I think we can say they haven't done it to ensure the right fans get in in tickets point sense as the evidence suggests otherwise.
The collection was fairly straightforward, more so than last time, but that's because we got there at 12 on the Tuesday and went straight from the airport bar to the shopping centre. Fortunately our hotel was only four metro stops away from the ticket office, but that was my good luck more than the club's good planning.
All my stuff was packed away in my bag and I was refused entry unless I could produce my letter. After opening and emptying contents onto the street I found the letter and was allowed entry, don't understand why I couldn't have done that just inside where it would be more secure. Perhaps my City shirt and old age led him to believe I was a likely terrorist threat.
Ticket collection over with in thirty seconds with a cheery 'don't forget you passport', to which IP pointed out the letter said ID. She repeated 'passport'. Yet, as others have attested to, they were told ID, no consistency there then.
As I pointed out last night the wristbands are identical apart from the colour and use the English short hand for match day and the English way of writing numerical dates. I find it odd that both the Spanish and French authorities have used the same contractor to produce the wristbands.
QED this idea has come from the club and has been introduced by them and not some spurious UEFA ruling or the police authorities.
I have travelled the world extensively, covering all continents apart from Australiasia and the Antarctic and at no time have I ever been asked to show my passport except at two football matches in Rome and Turin, and that was both by City stewards, not the police. Interestingly seasoned travellers know that important documents should be left in a secure location to avoid loss, as without passports/visas you won't be going anywhere soon. In fact Thopson gave out letters telling everyone the series consequencies of losing your passport in Madrid, whereas the club seem to be reckless in its attitude to them.
Therefore I'm very much against the erosion of my, and fellow travellers', freedoms in being forced to carry such an important document as a passport. Have to say that this is my biggest bug bear with the whole thing.
Two final thoughts. Had I have been on Spike's trip that was delayed I would have been having kittens. A delay is bad enough but also the fact that you and at least 200 others would all arrive at the same time would give me nightmares.
There could be a situation that a plane load of fans are locked out due to circumstances beyond their control.
Due to the overzealous policing and dangerous crushes I like to arrive at the ground in plenty of time.
And the unintended consequence of this?
People will book the official trip and Spike's trip will be squeezed and the day will come where the only way you will be able to go is through the 'official partners' and pay subsequently more. It's just another step in the sanitisation of the football experience, and being made easier by the aquiescense of others who are happy to be controlled, herded and with less choice.
There are more simple ways of controlling the issues of the wrong people getting the tickets, and I've raised them with a few blues over the last couple of weeks who have agreed that they would suit the fan more. Whilst some people think the the club can do no wrong in this matter, there are others with genuinely better ways of reaching the same conclusion.
Not everyone who follows City are myopic, not everyone who goes to the games are narrow minded, not all who travel in Europe are thugs, and some of us see things you will never see, until it's too late.
I'm also glad more people are getting tickets on their 'loyalty' now 'ticket' points than did before, at least now I'm guaranteed a ticket.
However there are still people attending the games who are well down the queue. There were quite a few blues who booked travel based on the ticket sales for PSG away being so sluggish. Then it sold out at 9000 points or so, which was much lower than both Sevila and Moenchengladbach.
There were numerous blues in the City end who had no where near 9000 points. In fact some didn't even have seasoncards. So those of you thinking its curbed whoring, it's stopped some but hasn't stopped all. The people sat near me looked like they hadn't been to an away game for donkey's years.
Three friends came over on the Thompson trip, they were given their tickets and their wristbands but weren't made to put them on, yet at the collection point you had too. They were talking to a large family of blues, eighteen of them altogether who had ten seasoncards between them, all had got tickets through their branch. So eight blues on about 9000 points missed out to these loyal blues without cards.
So I think we can say they haven't done it to ensure the right fans get in in tickets point sense as the evidence suggests otherwise.
The collection was fairly straightforward, more so than last time, but that's because we got there at 12 on the Tuesday and went straight from the airport bar to the shopping centre. Fortunately our hotel was only four metro stops away from the ticket office, but that was my good luck more than the club's good planning.
All my stuff was packed away in my bag and I was refused entry unless I could produce my letter. After opening and emptying contents onto the street I found the letter and was allowed entry, don't understand why I couldn't have done that just inside where it would be more secure. Perhaps my City shirt and old age led him to believe I was a likely terrorist threat.
Ticket collection over with in thirty seconds with a cheery 'don't forget you passport', to which IP pointed out the letter said ID. She repeated 'passport'. Yet, as others have attested to, they were told ID, no consistency there then.
As I pointed out last night the wristbands are identical apart from the colour and use the English short hand for match day and the English way of writing numerical dates. I find it odd that both the Spanish and French authorities have used the same contractor to produce the wristbands.
QED this idea has come from the club and has been introduced by them and not some spurious UEFA ruling or the police authorities.
I have travelled the world extensively, covering all continents apart from Australiasia and the Antarctic and at no time have I ever been asked to show my passport except at two football matches in Rome and Turin, and that was both by City stewards, not the police. Interestingly seasoned travellers know that important documents should be left in a secure location to avoid loss, as without passports/visas you won't be going anywhere soon. In fact Thopson gave out letters telling everyone the series consequencies of losing your passport in Madrid, whereas the club seem to be reckless in its attitude to them.
Therefore I'm very much against the erosion of my, and fellow travellers', freedoms in being forced to carry such an important document as a passport. Have to say that this is my biggest bug bear with the whole thing.
Two final thoughts. Had I have been on Spike's trip that was delayed I would have been having kittens. A delay is bad enough but also the fact that you and at least 200 others would all arrive at the same time would give me nightmares.
There could be a situation that a plane load of fans are locked out due to circumstances beyond their control.
Due to the overzealous policing and dangerous crushes I like to arrive at the ground in plenty of time.
And the unintended consequence of this?
People will book the official trip and Spike's trip will be squeezed and the day will come where the only way you will be able to go is through the 'official partners' and pay subsequently more. It's just another step in the sanitisation of the football experience, and being made easier by the aquiescense of others who are happy to be controlled, herded and with less choice.
There are more simple ways of controlling the issues of the wrong people getting the tickets, and I've raised them with a few blues over the last couple of weeks who have agreed that they would suit the fan more. Whilst some people think the the club can do no wrong in this matter, there are others with genuinely better ways of reaching the same conclusion.
Not everyone who follows City are myopic, not everyone who goes to the games are narrow minded, not all who travel in Europe are thugs, and some of us see things you will never see, until it's too late.
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