A question for those who think corruption is happening.

[binitd]

referee are afraid of fergusson.his experience...
untd are lucky in that sence.

 

[Numptyed]

I don't for 1 minute think Utd or any other club are paying refs off, that will never happen in the English game IMO.
I do however think Ref's are a bit frightened to upset firgie or give 50/50 decisions against Utd due to the attention it will gain, every game Utd play has somthing riding on it as they are always genuine challengers for every comp they are in and this means any wrong decision could make a big differance and a big fuss being made out of it in the press with Utd being the biggest club, as a ref i'm sure you wouldn't want to be seen as the reason the pluky underdog won.
You only have to look at the CC final last year and the 2 ratboy sending off's that never happend to see that this is just the way it is, hopefully one day we will be in that possition of power.

But was is there to be scared of? On another thread someone actually said that refs are scared of a 'tongue lashing' off of Taggart. Ooooo, a tongue lashing! Do people seriously believe that a grown man is scared of being shouted at by another grown man, whether it be in public or in a hair-dryer filled office? No-ones scared of being shouted at, but with people on here suggesting the refs are scared of Taggart, what is there to be scared of?

I don't mean scared as in "OOH he's going to shout at me with whisky breath", I mean in terms of the power he holds in the game, bacon face will always have an audience when he speaks as he is hugley respected in the game (rightly so), when he talks people listen.
If a ref were to constantly get criticized by him it would surely damadge there career.

There is no coruption but there is manipulation.

I'm sure a referree would rather face the wrath of Holloway than Fergie as if Fergie slates the ref it makes more headlines and affects the refs standings or reputation.

This is what i mean :-)

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Its all a nonsense.

If United get a decision that goes for them its corruption.

If we get a decision for us it "swings and roundabouts".

When we played Blackpool we had an offside goal given and they had an offside goal chalked off. Corruption?

good point. i think some people spend too much time believing what some say or write, as gospel.

we get decisions for that we shouldnt, but because we arent hated as much (yet - hopefully) they dont get brought up.

lets not forget that united would have won the title last season if it wast for the 6 points chelsea picked up against them for ridiculous offside decisions. so some do go against them :-)

er...no, because Owen's goal would drop 2 points as it shouldn't have counted against us and Macheda's goal back in the home game v Chelsea was a clear handball for starters.

 

[moomba]

Corruption isn't happening IMO, bit incompetence, lack of bottle, intimidation and obsession with their own public image is worth 10-15 points a season for the rags.

 

[leroy]

good point. i think some people spend too much time believing what some say or write, as gospel.

we get decisions for that we shouldnt, but because we arent hated as much (yet - hopefully) they dont get brought up.

lets not forget that united would have won the title last season if it wast for the 6 points chelsea picked up against them for ridiculous offside decisions. so some do go against them :-)

er...no, because Owen's goal would drop 2 points as it shouldn't have counted against us and Macheda's goal back in the home game v Chelsea was a clear handball for starters.

point proven - some go for, some go against.

btw, in your opinion it shouldnt have counted. we could have scored in the added time, just like blackpool could have done last night.
we can rightly call them for a lot of things, but the fact they dont give up is why they are successful. it is something we need to progress from where we are

 

[GStar]

I think it would be naive to suggest a multi billion pound industry isn't involved in some form of corruption.

It might not even be directly involved with the clubs, but more the people that run it (FA, Sky etc)

Keep Utd at the top and you keep you're main advertising revenues in place. We sell the PL on the success and domination of Utd, if that goes away then the 'worldwide fans' would soon get bored and stop associating themselves with Utd and possibly PL football.

Why jepordise guarenteed revenue with possible revenue too? By that i mean, unless TPTB knew they could make more money marketing a Chelsea or a City then they're continue to make sure their assets are at their most valuable.

I don't think it too 'out there' that certain teams are given an extra % or two in matches to make sure they're up there come the end of the season... i'd almost expect it with the whopper that run our game and the shrewd billionaire's that hve suddenly decided to come and invest in this league.

 

[Blue Haze]

I don't think of corruption in terms of payments. It's improper influencing and bias.

They get calls that no other club gets. How many times has Neville deserved a red card this year and not received one, including dragging down an opponent clear on goal.

 

[Pigeonho]

er...no, because Owen's goal would drop 2 points as it shouldn't have counted against us and Macheda's goal back in the home game v Chelsea was a clear handball for starters.

point proven - some go for, some go against.

btw, in your opinion it shouldnt have counted. we could have scored in the added time, just like blackpool could have done last night.
we can rightly call them for a lot of things, but the fact they dont give up is why they are successful. it is something we need to progress from where we are

Exactly. So called Fergie time was there for us to score on that day, but we don't know how to carry on like united do. I don't remember the 4th official holding up a sign which said '5 extra minutes, but only so that United can score, not City'. Its just they know how to do it till the end.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

er...no, because Owen's goal would drop 2 points as it shouldn't have counted against us and Macheda's goal back in the home game v Chelsea was a clear handball for starters.

point proven - some go for, some go against.

btw, in your opinion it shouldnt have counted. we could have scored in the added time, just like blackpool could have done last night.
we can rightly call them for a lot of things, but the fact they dont give up is why they are successful. it is something we need to progress from where we are

not the point when the added time wasn't justifiable.

Case in point was when Everton had a 3 on 1 on the break at Goodison against them this season at 3-3 and the ref blew up during the attack for full time, the very same ref who let United carry on despite the allotted time having run out by a distance.

 

[johnmc]

I don't think of corruption in terms of payments. It's improper influencing and bias.

They get calls that no other club gets. How many times has Neville deserved a red card this year and not received one, including dragging down an opponent clear on goal.

Once v Stoke.