A question for those who think corruption is happening.

[Dirty Harry]

Joe, whilst I actually agree with you on the subject as a whole I do disagree on the above in bold, it was actually justifiable for me, my point being that Atkinson knew exactly to the second how much time he could actually JUSTIFY, the issue for me is that it wasn`t consistent with 99.9% of other games when time is totted up.
On the issue of ` well both teams have the chance to score in the added time`, let`s be honest, who is any extra added time at Old Trafford going to truly benefit, the rags at home going for the win who have a history of late goals or the away team ?

I don't think it was a) he gave a foul against Carlos for fuck all when full time should have been blow. b) ball cleared the box and he still didn't blown for full time but let United attack again.

Yet Everton despite an injury time goal being scored(which Bellamy's wasn't, it was in normal time when the ball hit the net), got pulled back on a clear break because United would have lost otherwise.

I don`t disagree with you on the Carlos foul mate, it was bollocks and I totally agree there, just the time issue, the key word here is `justify`, the meticulous way in which he/they calculated the added time was at the very least `suspect`if only for the fact it was literally done to the second, don`t think I`ve ever seen it done to that degree in over thirty years of watching the game.

 

[johnmc]

JFC!!!

How did Anderlecht bribe the official that fucked Forest over? What about Leeds before them? Chelsea v Barcelona? What about the World Cup matches that are fixed? These are more high profile than Blackpool v Manure FFS.

The authorities try to sweep all this under the table. I suppose you wouldn't remeber this -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ll-scandal-to-name-bribed-players-488818.html
How many were named? What happened to this ref?

The betting industry in the far east is mind blowingly large & crossing them (as well as the eastern bloc mafia) is very dangerous. I even have my suspisions about City during the time of Shiniwatra, especially towards the end of his time. The Boro' 8-1 game... The 3 Brazilians who didn't give a shit about City... a manager on borrowed time... It had all the ingredients. (I'm not saying they were corrupt but it didn't feel right.)

Indiviual games and individual refs - people are accusing every ref near enough.
If it was a betting scam I doubt they would choose to do it in uniteds games time and time again.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

JFC!!!

How did Anderlecht bribe the official that fucked Forest over? What about Leeds before them? Chelsea v Barcelona? What about the World Cup matches that are fixed? These are more high profile than Blackpool v Manure FFS.

The authorities try to sweep all this under the table. I suppose you wouldn't remeber this -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ll-scandal-to-name-bribed-players-488818.html
How many were named? What happened to this ref?

The betting industry in the far east is mind blowingly large & crossing them (as well as the eastern bloc mafia) is very dangerous. I even have my suspisions about City during the time of Shiniwatra, especially towards the end of his time. The Boro' 8-1 game... The 3 Brazilians who didn't give a shit about City... a manager on borrowed time... It had all the ingredients. (I'm not saying they were corrupt but it didn't feel right.)

Indiviual games and individual refs - people are accusing every ref near enough.
If it was a betting scam I doubt they would choose to do it in uniteds games time and time again.

safest way to make money ;)

 

[The Future's Blue]

Who controls the Ref's, the FA or Premier League?

Who controls the Premier League, the Premier League or Sky?

 

[Pigeonho]

Just think about it for a second. Think about what it would take for a United official to go through to make a payment to a ref or any other bod, to ensure a game is not lost. Surely there would be a paper trail? An electronic transfer of data trail? An audio trail? A money trail?

We have just seen the downfall of a Sky 'legend', (their term, not mine), all in the space of 24 hours - because there was a trail. Now some think that trail was set up, and I can see why. That is just to bring down a commentator, not a club and one of the greatest managers ever, just a commentator. Now surely if someone hated United that much and suspected there was foul play with refs, a sting could be set up? Remember how easily Sven got stung by the NOTW? Surely if they thought something was not right, they would set up a sting to unmask the biggest footballing scandal since records began? It couldn't be that hard to do, could it?

Or am I being very naive and very gullible by not realising that it could actually be a matter of a masked menace, sneaking up to Peter Waltons house at night with a self exploding letter which explains what this 'payment' is for?

Still think its happening?

Just to say, this isn't a smartarse pop at those I regard as deluded enough to believe United are favoured upon. You know my thoughts on that. I believe they win because that is all they know to do and whether I get pillared for this or not, I admire how they carve out results like last night and I wish to high heaven we could start doing it. Time will bring that mentality to us, I am certain of it but its all about gaining the experience of doing so, and the fact is they have players there who only know how to win, and that experience rubs off on whoever it is Bacon Face decides to add to the squad for the future.

JFC!!!

How did Anderlecht bribe the official that fucked Forest over? What about Leeds before them? Chelsea v Barcelona? What about the World Cup matches that are fixed? These are more high profile than Blackpool v Manure FFS.

The authorities try to sweep all this under the table. I suppose you wouldn't remeber this -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ll-scandal-to-name-bribed-players-488818.html
How many were named? What happened to this ref?

The betting industry in the far east is mind blowingly large & crossing them (as well as the eastern bloc mafia) is very dangerous. I even have my suspisions about City during the time of Shiniwatra, especially towards the end of his time. The Boro' 8-1 game... The 3 Brazilians who didn't give a shit about City... a manager on borrowed time... It had all the ingredients. (I'm not saying they were corrupt but it didn't feel right.)

Ah, so now our club are folding in matches to earn money for our owners? It couldn't just be a case of we were absolute wank that day, could it? Thats more likely.

Like my OP said, if its as clear as that, and if there is hard evidence to back it up and be exposed, why hasn't anyone made themselves an overnight millionaire and exposed it?

 

[johnmc]

Who controls the Ref's, the FA or Premier League?

Who controls the Premier League, the Premier League or Sky?

The rags. To both.

 

[CBlue]

JFC!!!

How did Anderlecht bribe the official that fucked Forest over? What about Leeds before them? Chelsea v Barcelona? What about the World Cup matches that are fixed? These are more high profile than Blackpool v Manure FFS.

The authorities try to sweep all this under the table. I suppose you wouldn't remeber this -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ll-scandal-to-name-bribed-players-488818.html
How many were named? What happened to this ref?

The betting industry in the far east is mind blowingly large & crossing them (as well as the eastern bloc mafia) is very dangerous. I even have my suspisions about City during the time of Shiniwatra, especially towards the end of his time. The Boro' 8-1 game... The 3 Brazilians who didn't give a shit about City... a manager on borrowed time... It had all the ingredients. (I'm not saying they were corrupt but it didn't feel right.)

Indiviual games and individual refs - people are accusing every ref near enough.
If it was a betting scam I doubt they would choose to do it in uniteds games time and time again.

Not every ref. There are a handfull. Why not Uniteds games? The fact that you doubt it would make it even more lucrative & likely. What were the odds for a United win at half time last night? What were the betting patterns?

 

[johnmc]

Not every ref. There are a handfull. Why not Uniteds games? The fact that you doubt it would make it even more lucrative & likely. What were the odds for a United win at half time last night? What were the betting patterns?

So 4 or 5 refs are controlled by the rags. All refs that have been approached have accepted and no refs have been approached and declined and leaked it out.

The game last night was manipulated so united were losing at half time and winning at full time. Have you forgot about the Blackpool team? Or were they in on it? If United are able are that good that they can ensure coming back to win from 2 nil down then fare play to them

 

[Pigeonho]

Not every ref. There are a handfull. Why not Uniteds games? The fact that you doubt it would make it even more lucrative & likely. What were the odds for a United win at half time last night? What were the betting patterns?

So 4 or 5 refs are controlled by the rags. All refs that have been approached have accepted and no refs have been approached and declined and leaked it out.

The game last night was manipulated so united were losing at half time and winning at full time. Have you forgot about the Blackpool team? Or were they in on it? If United are able are that good that they can ensure coming back to win from 2 nil down then fare play to them

Don't forget that guy with the 'Blackpool' glasses on, he is the instigator, i'm sure.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Not every ref. There are a handfull. Why not Uniteds games? The fact that you doubt it would make it even more lucrative & likely. What were the odds for a United win at half time last night? What were the betting patterns?

So 4 or 5 refs are controlled by the rags. All refs that have been approached have accepted and no refs have been approached and declined and leaked it out.

The game last night was manipulated so united were losing at half time and winning at full time. Have you forgot about the Blackpool team? Or were they in on it? If United are able are that good that they can ensure coming back to win from 2 nil down then fare play to them

Is it too far fetched to believe there could be a `hardcore` that sound out certain individuals they feel may be suitable ? it happens in other organisations John.