A thread about protesters

[BobKowalski]

The Govt doesn’t like protests and certainly didn’t like the BLM and Extinction Rev protests, hence this desire to stop all protests. There is already adequate legislation on the books to deal with the more disruptive protests and passing more legislation will not prevent anything, other than perhaps the chance to lock up people for a decade (shades of China), but it will likely just add more fuel to the protest fire.

The Clapham vigil/protest was an own goal, because the vigil could have taken place safely within Covid guidelines (others elsewhere did), yet there was a determination to make an example here because it was a ‘soft target’, ie just ordinary women and likely not to defy the banning order. When they did, examples had to be made, hence the PR clusterfuck.

The other reason for this attempt to strangle the right to protest is the State capacity to deal with protest which with our policing levels is severely compromised, so the hope is to prevent them happening because we struggle when they do.

If people feel strongly enough about an issue, there will be protest no matter how many laws you pass and if the State can’t cope beyond a certain level of protest then you weaken a populations adherence to the rule of law if you keep banning protests that go ahead anyway.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The Govt doesn’t like protests and certainly didn’t like the BLM and Extinction Rev protests, hence this desire to stop all protests. There is already adequate legislation on the books to deal with the more disruptive protests and passing more legislation will not prevent anything, other than perhaps the chance to lock up people for a decade (shades of China), but it will likely just add more fuel to the protest fire.

The Clapham vigil/protest was an own goal, because the vigil could have taken place safely within Covid guidelines (others elsewhere did), yet there was a determination to make an example here because it was a ‘soft target’, ie just ordinary women and likely not to defy the banning order. When they did, examples had to be made, hence the PR clusterfuck.

The other reason for this attempt to strangle the right to protest is the State capacity to deal with protest which with our policing levels is severely compromised, so the hope is to prevent them happening because we struggle when they do.

If people feel strongly enough about an issue, there will be protest no matter how many laws you pass and if the State can’t cope beyond a certain level of protest then you weaken a populations adherence to the rule of law if you keep banning protests that go ahead anyway.

 

[Cheesy]

There were 4 arrests.

And just look at the amount of shit the police have got for that.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Havent heard anything about dog thefts for at least a week anyway. Old news?

 

[stonerblue]

And just look at the amount of shit the police have got for that.

Yeah, mostly off bedroom warriors on the internet with no fucking clue but just love to tell the world how disgusted they are.
Four arrests is not a riot or organised anarchy or the breakdown of society as we know it. It's fuck all.
Lock them all up for breaking covid? It takes 5 coppers and 3 hours of form filling just to get them into the cells. There would be no police available to do the policing we really need. I don't need 'protecting' from any of those i saw demonstrating.

 

[Blu3m00n91]

Another bunch of muppets out protesting in Manchester tonight.

 

[Rascal]

Coming from you, i.e. someone who supports the doctrines of oppressive communist regimes, I find this highly amusing. And utter bollocks as well, of course.

Communism is not oppressive, that is just Capitalist propaganda based on Cold War rhetoric.

And then we get into the same old arguments about the USSR and Stalin, who was an oppressive dictator and of whom you could quite feasibly argue was not a Communist but a Fascist.

This is why we need the right to protest, when people are labelled in such a fashion then protest is the only defence they have, otherwise they are crushed under the yoke of the Capitalist class.

Back to the topic at hand

If you support the stopping of protest's, do not be surprised that if you ever feel you want to protest about anything if it is stopped. Because these powers are scary and have no place in a democracy, they are authoritarian and they are a danger to democracy.

 

[Rascal]

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Another bunch of muppets out protesting in Manchester tonight.

Another muppet supporting a bill that is borderline Fascist

 

[Blu3m00n91]

Another muppet supporting a bill that is borderline Fascist

Not supporting anything pal. You think a bunch of students shouting ‘fuck the police’ will make changes. Hence the muppet remark

 

[oman0115]

They’re at it again tonight marching through London shouting ‘all cops are b******* the same police who bash up anti lockdown protestors are marching civilly beside them, what is going on?