A thread about protesters

[idahoblues]

Rags lost

Ha, I hadn’t seen the result yet, Hampshire must be in flames

 

[bluethrunthru]

Sadly there seems to be some confusion between police enforcing existing legislation and the proposed new / extension of legislation. This has resulted in a general brainless anti-police protest and the very legitimate concern about temporary / emergency pandemic related powers getting extended being lost among general anti-establishment nonsense. Those the protesters most hate/fear will be most pleased. :-(

Far from it - people are/were well aware of current legislation. Some protests were about how the Police applied existing legislation to women on a vigil. Some have been about the incoming legislation and the changes that brings
(one in Newcastle tonight went off without incident - only just makes very local news ). You cannot conflate the two reasons for protest ( unless you are a Tory MP or write for the Mail or Telegraph ) and unfortunately as we see all too often now these protests contain within them some external subversive elements out to make trouble.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Far from it - people are/were well aware of current legislation. Some protests were about how the Police applied existing legislation to women on a vigil. Some have been about the incoming legislation and the changes that brings
(one in Newcastle tonight went off without incident - only just makes very local news ).

Maybe, but the distinction is now lost thanks to the dick heads in Bristol that will get the headlines.

 

[FantasyIreland]

No excuse for the behaviour of these oxygen stealing rats.

Protest by all means,but when people get hurt and property is damaged then any point you are trying to make is completely lost.They need slapping into next week and the ringleaders need putting away for a vey long time.

 

[Blue Mist]

indeed. So if people are legitimately angry and concerned about this ... and peaceful protests get ignored and fall on deaf eyes and this bill goes through ..

what do people propose they should do ?

Vote. Martin Luther King didn't throw petrol bombs.
Ghandi didn't torch police vehicles and stamp on police officers chests.

 

[meltonblue]

Vote. Martin Luther King didn't throw petrol bombs.
Ghandi didn't torch police vehicles and stamp on police officers chests.

The issue is with peaceful protests though not violent ones, given violent protests is already covered in existing legislation.

They were both huge advocates of peaceful protests.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I don't see why the media don't use the words hooligans, criminals, vandals with a fair sprinkling of the adjective 'violent'! It's become standard practice for all those with long-held, even perceived grudges, to join a 'protest', peaceful to start with, but it will eventually turn to a portion of the protesters targeting the police. it's about time some of these 'protesters' were chased down and prosecuted for violent disorder. It seems that the powers that uphold and enforce the law are quite happy if a couple are 'sorted'.

 

[Blue Mist]

The issue is with peaceful protests though not violent ones, given violent protests is already covered in existing legislation.

They were both huge advocates of peaceful protests.

My reply was to blue hammer who seemed to imply that if peaceful protest didn't work the option was violent protest.
Martin Luther King was an amazing man who I have the utmost respect for. Peaceful protest should always be allowed.

 

[meltonblue]

My reply was to blue hammer who seemed to imply that if peaceful protest didn't work the option was violent protest.
Martin Luther King was an amazing man who I have the utmost respect for. Peaceful protest should always be allowed.

Ah apologies, yes, completely agree.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Amazing that this happens just as the govn are trying to press home with the anti protesting bill they want.

 

[bluejon]

Vote. Martin Luther King didn't throw petrol bombs.
Ghandi didn't torch police vehicles and stamp on police officers chests.

You clearly never saw Ghandi after a few shots of sambuca.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

You can always rely on left wing nutters to cement public opinion in support of whatever they are protesting against.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Amazing that this happens just as the govn are trying to press home with the anti protesting bill they want.

Ive read the conspiracy theory lunacy elsewhere,and its bollocks,this was exclusively the work of self entitled,left wing,fucktards - wankers who knowingly or otherwise cause far more harm than good in society.

 

[Rascal]

People have died alone in hospital/care homes because of covid. They have been buried with virtually no one there and yet these people don't have the common sense to stay at home.
The laws relating to covid may not be the best but they are there to keep people alive and hospitals functioning. All the people that attended put others at risk, bus drivers, tube workers etc. That is selfish and wrong.
I have no problem with any protest, BLM, CND etc in normal times. These are not normal times.
What is your position on Piers Corbyn?

Of course things are different because of Covid.

These new laws though are about more than Covid, they are using Covid as an excuse to put forward increasingly draconian authoritarian laws that will be in place after Covid. They arenot temporary, they are permanent.

Pier's Corbyn is a crackpot, why do you ask?

 

[Rascal]

Officers suffering broken bones during riots in Bristol. People will still justify it. This was bound to escalate once the police are abandoned by the politicians and treated like inhuman shit by the media.

Who on earth would justify that. I certainly wouldn't, there is a world of difference between peaceful protest and violent reaction.

I totally support the Police, it is wrong they are being used as a political football and it has been wrong that they have been used in that way since Thatcher used them to supress the Miner's

 

[Zuriblue]

Ive read the conspiracy theory lunacy elsewhere,and its bollocks,this was exclusively the work of self entitled,left wing,fucktards - wankers who knowingly or otherwise cause far more harm than good in society.

Certainly at the BLM protests in the States a lot of the violence came from RWNJs trying to smear the left.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/%3FoutputType%3Damp

 

[Rascal]

You can always rely on left wing nutters to cement public opinion in support of whatever they are protesting against.

And you can always rely on the media to portray them as left wing nutters, even if they are not.

That is the way the media works and then idiots will believe it was left wing nutters. The left wing get further demonised and the Capitalists open some more champagne on their yachts in the Caymen Islands.

 

[VOOMER]

I haven’t and not really followed all this.

is there a genuine reason to be concerned, protest etc ?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/537257/Factsheet_0_-_overview.pdf

I would say 100% yes

 

[Len Rum]

And you can always rely on the media to portray them as left wing nutters, even if they are not.
That is the way the media works and then idiots will believe it was left wing nutters. The left wing get further demonised and the Capitalists open some more champagne on their yachts in the Caymen Islands.

Health warning:
@Invisible Man's Bandage thinks the Times is a left wing newspaper.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

And you can always rely on the media to portray them as left wing nutters, even if they are not.

That is the way the media works and then idiots will believe it was left wing nutters. The left wing get further demonised and the Capitalists open some more champagne on their yachts in the Caymen Islands.

So those that attacked the police & set fire to vehicles are not left wing nutters but legitimate protesters?

Interesting.