A thread about protesters

[ganganvince]

When they start targeting emergency vehicles and only block emergency vehicles let me know.

The Insulate Britain protests are part of the concern about global warming and the threat this poses to lives. The RNLI protest was to specifically stop lives being saved. There is no equivalence. Do you not see that?

Cheers got my answer the right to endanger life when protesting is cause dependant. Personally there should be no exceptions whatever the cause there is no right to endanger innocent people.

 

[Rascal]

People on this thread saying if people die because of protests they are still happy to support their methods. Does this qualify? In my book they are cunts.

This is illegal under the 2005 Emergency workers obstruction Act.

 

[ganganvince]

This is illegal under the 2005 Emergency workers obstruction Act.

Which also covers blocking a highway when they are told a blue light situation exists with the vehicle caught up in the backlog

 

[inbetween]

Have you actually given any thought to that statement.

Illegal protests FFS , we do not yet live under a Dictatorship. Protests should never be illegal as they are a vital part of the democratic process. Close down protests, close down Democracy.

I abhor Tiny Tommy ten names and his crew of bigots and racists but i back 100% their right to protest, i vehemently disagree with everything they stand for, but if they are not allowed to protest and express their beliefs then those beliefs risk going underground and becoming subversive.

Protests that impact on the general population or at least public safety should be illegal. When I travel to work I didn't choose to take part in a protest because of people lying in the road who are therefore breaking the Highways Act.

The law exists to protect people, it isn't about preventing protests. No-ones right to protest has been affected at all if they choose to do it legally and peacefully which in both of these cases you can prove that they could do. Insulate Britain could stand at the side of the road and they'd have no problems.

I apply the exact same thing to the RNLI blocking nutters, they could stand at the side of the boat and peacefully protest without any issues. If they can't do that then they deserve whatever the consequences are, anything else is accepting anarchy.

As I said ages ago on this thread, if you think legality doesn't matter then well I fancy some breakfast this morning so why don't I go and peacefully protest my hunger by nicking something from the shop?

 

[Rascal]

Which also covers blocking a highway when they are told a blue light situation exists with the vehicle caught up in the backlog

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And if it was a cause i felt strongly about i would be willing to lose my liberty for it. Stopping the protest in the first place is the issue. What comes first the protest or the emergency.

If all protest is banned because there maybe a potential emergency, we are in effect living in a Police state.

 

[ganganvince]

And if it was a cause i felt strongly about i would be willing to lose my liberty for it. Stopping the protest in the first place is the issue. What comes first the protest or the emergency.

If all protest is banned because there maybe a potential emergency, we are in effect living in a Police state.

I admire your conviction and honesty but can't agree with you on this one to my mind legal protest should be peaceful and not confrontational. But if we all thought the same this would be an echo chamber.

 

[BobKowalski]

Cheers got my answer the right to endanger life when protesting is cause dependant. Personally there should be no exceptions whatever the cause there is no right to endanger innocent people.

No, you didn’t get your answer. Insulate Britain do not target emergency vehicles just as they are about to answer a call. The RNLI protest did target an emergency craft to deliberately prevent it answering an emergency call.

Your post was a dishonest attempt at linking two separate incidents to score a cheap point.

 

[inbetween]

No, you didn’t get your answer. Insulate Britain do not target emergency vehicles just as they are about to answer a call. The RNLI protest did target an emergency craft to deliberately prevent it answering an emergency call.

Your post was a dishonest attempt at linking two separate incidents to score a cheap point.

This is just thick I'm sorry.

Insulate Britain lie down in roads and their protest aim is not to peacefully protest. Their aim is to indiscriminately block anyone from using the road. Emergency vehicles use roads so that also includes emergency vehicles by default.

There is a law against blocking roads for this and many other reasons, including potentially the law vs blocking emergency vehicles that you've already mentioned.

In the eyes of the law then these cases are absolutely no different, the only thing different is an emergency vehicle hasn't yet happened to of come down the road when Insulate Britain were led on it... Yet!

 

[ganganvince]

No, you didn’t get your answer. Insulate Britain do not target emergency vehicles just as they are about to answer a call. The RNLI protest did target an emergency craft to deliberately prevent it answering an emergency call.

Your post was a dishonest attempt at linking two separate incidents to score a cheap point.

Not dishonest at all Bob I treat all protests equally regardless of cause. NONE should be allowed to endanger life whether or not you support them.

 

[BobKowalski]

Protests that impact on the general population or at least public safety should be illegal. When I travel to work I didn't choose to take part in a protest because of people lying in the road who are therefore breaking the Highways Act.

The law exists to protect people, it isn't about preventing protests. No-ones right to protest has been affected at all if they choose to do it legally and peacefully which in both of these cases you can prove that they could do. Insulate Britain could stand at the side of the road and they'd have no problems.

I apply the exact same thing to the RNLI blocking nutters, they could stand at the side of the boat and peacefully protest without any issues. If they can't do that then they deserve whatever the consequences are, anything else is accepting anarchy.

As I said ages ago on this thread, if you think legality doesn't matter then well I fancy some breakfast this morning so why don't I go and peacefully protest my hunger by nicking something from the shop?

Every protest, every civil rights movement impacts on the general population. Someone, somewhere is always pissed off or inconvenienced. You might as well just say you like the idea of living in an authoritarian police state that crushes the first sign of protest or civil disobedience.