Sorry but you have missed my point. I am not saying stop and search is wrong or right. I am saying the public cannot change their minds every few weeks/months.The thing is the current stop and searches have fuck all to do with knife crime. Its an embedded view within the Police Force that black men are drug dealers therefore there are massively more black me stopped and searched and in the vast majority of cases nothing is found ( a bit like when the Police stop a car driven by a black man for speeding and once he proves he is the legal owner and insured to drive they suddenly smell weed ).
The fact is that very few black kids will carry drugs because they are so likely to get stopped and searched. And if stop and search is effective why are knife deaths in London constantly rising?
[My post here as absolutely nowt to do with protests, it’s merely a response to this^]
Great Britain is a fucking brilliant beautiful country, with brilliant beautiful people, which has a brilliant beautiful culture.
I can’t fucking stand this pitiful brand of country hating lefty nonsense.
“Britain makes me miserable” “this country has gone to the dogs” “Britain is fucked” “you’re fascist” “he’s far right” “that’s nationalistic” “Boris is an evil Gammon” ““Keith” Starmer is a neo-liberal” “boo fucking hoo”...
Miserable people speak volumes about themselves, not about the country they live in, not who’s in “power”, not about anything else that’s going on around them... merely, simply, solely, about themselves!
Money means nothing, it’s fictitious. Health makes you happy, not wealth; physical and mental fitness dictates your life, not some randoms swanning about in that big building near the Thames. If you’re fit and healthy, it doesn’t matter what else is going on because you’re succeeding as a human.
The only way you fail is when you aren’t fit and healthy. Being fit and healthy can be achieved even by the poorest in society. Healthy food is cheaper than junk food; walking, running and cycling is cheaper than having a car. There’s no political excuse for a human living on the island of Great Britain not to be fit and healthy.
If you’re a person that thinks that politicians are more important to your happiness than what you can do for yourself and your close-ones; then it’s you that has your priorities wrong.
Politics is a mere, and almost insignificant, side issue to life in Britain. Political parties, political ideologies - like money - are fictitious. They are created in the fantasy of human minds. It all means precisely fuck all. Someone can live their entire life happily, successfully, brilliantly and beautifully no matter what’s going on around them.
I’ve worked with refugees and political migrants who’ve come to this country and it’s a fucking dream for them. They love it here, they appreciate what a great country it is. They must look at the language of the misery-merchant lefties and think you’re lunatics. This miserable country hating bollocks from our own citizens is quite frankly an embarrassment. You all need to fucking wake up and wise up, you don’t know how fortunate you are!
“Always, I had the dream to come here. To train in the Shakespeare country, in The Beatles country, the Oasis country... it’s not just football, this country is special, for many many many reasons!”
Josep Guardiola Sala, March 2021.
Nothing to do with protests but during downtime, after a certain time or in certain locations, I'd stop everyone-it would range from a chat to a search, to an arrest; people on foot, cars-that's how you prevent crime, that's how you get to know your community, that's how the local criminals get to know you-because you are also likely to meet them countless times (with the added benefit that if you have to arrest them in the future they won't chin you if they think you've treated them alright). You get to know their habits, how they even walk, how they dress, how they ride their push bikes, so you can recognise them from cctv footage. That's good policing. As a higher ranked officer that is how I taught my officers. The public should welcome stop and search. It's one of the best tools we have.The thing is the current stop and searches have fuck all to do with knife crime. Its an embedded view within the Police Force that black men are drug dealers therefore there are massively more black me stopped and searched and in the vast majority of cases nothing is found ( a bit like when the Police stop a car driven by a black man for speeding and once he proves he is the legal owner and insured to drive they suddenly smell weed ).
The fact is that very few black kids will carry drugs because they are so likely to get stopped and searched. And if stop and search is effective why are knife deaths in London constantly rising?
Rather confusing then that those same peaceful anti violence women (and men) at the vigil were more than happy to carry their ACAB placards, assault female officers, call them murderers, abuse them for wearing a uniform. How does that fit the narrative?I think people aren't slagging off the police for their actions today. They are pointing out the difference between the policing of this event and that of the vigil last weekend.
Both protest and vigil could have been handled in the same way, rather than going in heavy handed at a bunch of women out to highlight violence towards women.
Nothing to do with protests but during downtime, after a certain time or in certain locations, I'd stop everyone-it would range from a chat to a search, to an arrest; people on foot, cars-that's how you prevent crime, that's how you get to know your community
If it were the same rent a mob each time, surely they should have been identified now and given ASBOs from the centre of London?Rather confusing then that those same peaceful anti violence women (and men) at the vigil were more than happy to carry their ACAB placards, assault female officers, call them murderers, abuse them for wearing a uniform. How does that fit the narrative?
Heavy handed? I saw a few people being arrested using minimum force. The vigil was taken over by the same rent a mob that turn up everywhere-gobbing off at cops and then wondering why they get arrested.
Rather confusing then that those same peaceful anti violence women (and men) at the vigil were more than happy to carry their ACAB placards, assault female officers, call them murderers, abuse them for wearing a uniform. How does that fit the narrative?
Heavy handed? I saw a few people being arrested using minimum force. The vigil was taken over by the same rent a mob that turn up everywhere-gobbing off at cops and then wondering why they get arrested.
I do wish West Ham Fans would tempt you and your bingo card back to the South East.It’s the right that constantly moan and whinge about Britain, moan their liberties are being taken away, moan our heritage has gone because of Johnny foreigners, moan about women, BLM, Lewis Hamilton, Rashford, Meghan Markle, Gays and Transexuals - constant moaning and anger fed to them by the daily Mail and Piers Morgan and the only saviour for this country is Nigel Farage in their eyes.
So, in effect if they did handle it badly it's a tiny minority of policemen then?It wasn’t taken over. The blame for the Clapham fuck up lay in the authorities not allowing the vigil to take place under Covid guidelines, which just meant the vigil took place anyway because feelings and emotions were running high and the police and Home Sec. deciding to make an example of this particular event.
There were similar events elsewhere that passed without incident as the police correctly decided that steaming in would cause more problems than they would solve.
As for this ‘mob’ that turn up everywhere, seriously how fucking dim are the police if they can’t recognise the same people getting in their faces every time?
You don’t solve anything by arresting women holding tea lights at a vigil and no amount of self serving justification is going to cut it. Oh, and kudos to the police elsewhere who used their fucking brains.