Adam Johnson admits he may quit City???

[Failsworth_Blue]

So it's ok for Mancini to publicly destroy the lad but he can't come out and say he isn't happy about not starting?

Destroy him? Nothing like going over the top

 

[gio's side step]

It needs putting into context. Johnson is an attacking player. In and out. One on one. A high tempo player. When city play a slow controlled low tempo game, the only time he is going to be effective is should we suddenly break on the counter attack. Because the slow tempo build up is resulting in him receiving the ball very deep, in front of a defence which has fronted up. In the first half against Liverpool we moved the ball much quicker and that suited Johnson hence he was our most attacking player in the first half.

I actually fear he is suited better elsewhere if we continue to play this barbarically negative slow tempo football, fearing the opposition. I accept away from home, sometimes, a more cautious approach might be needed during the first half in tough competitive games, but at home, we just havent utilised Johnson enough in the right areas. Instead we have had the pleasure and delight of watching the average Milner work hard, up and down with zero productivity. But then again, he does allow the fans to identify with him. He's a worker. And that is all some fans want.

That doesn't of course take into account the amount of times he's wasted the ball when theres absolutely no need to try and beat a man. As i said twice within the first 10 minutes he tried to beat a man when there was an easy pass on and he ran the ball out of play, he's a good dribbler but he doesn't need to dribble with it all the time

He was effective against Liverpool because they pushed up and he could get one on one against their full back and there was space in behind, against the likes of Birmingham who will sit deep, invite pressure and are happy to defend all day you have to adapt your game, you have to realise you can't always beat the defender and you must use the ball much more effective than he has been doing

He's a young international with a hell of a talent. Most respected football fans from all clubs and journalists recognise he is one of England's brightest talents. I recall watching Ronaldo during his first/second season at Utd often trying too many tricks, sometimes being a little naive. I am not comparing him directly, but the principle is that I would rather have a top level talent learning and working at City, where we should be providing him the platform to develop into the top drawer player genuine fans (not self deceived or on a forza mancini agenda) believe and know he can be. Equally then, we continue to adopt safety, cautious square passes across the midfield and back to the defence. In fear we might have a player who is brave enough to TRY and attack against a player and produce a nose bleed for the rest of the team under Mancini's stewardship.

 

[Skashion]

He wasn't very quick on the counter against Birmingham. Johno is not an out-and-out pace player (like Bellamy). He should be good at cutting open static defences with his dribbling, and he is. He just doesn't do it for the full ninety. I'd like to know what the reason is. Unfortunately, to my mind, it's either arrogance of the variety that he doesn't have to do the business for ninety minutes and glimpses are enough, or it's fitness. Neither are indicative of professionalism. I'm someone who likes to see players given chances to get it right. Young players especially, so Onouha and Johno should be given some chances to get their head straight and learn to shut their mouths and put their frustration on to the pitch but it can't go on ad infinitum like Bellamy who now looks like he'll never will a medal because he couldn't learn to control himself.

 

[johnny crossan]

You wouldn't want to disagree with the DDs though - it would show "you have no knowledge of the game". I would also direct your attention to the subtle distinction embodied in DD's familiar argument that the entire human population that lives, or has ever lived, or will ever live (together with various subsets) must agree with him that AJ should be in the squad i.e. not team.

Naw...get rid, Johnny.
Get rid of em all. The lot of em. Let's start again.
Parasites the lot of em.
We've frozen out all the pacy players on the books except Johnson. Why not finish the job? A stain on the good name of our club, these fancy dans.
England goals? Pah. Meaningless. We don't need players who can get past people. We need one-paced tacklers. That's how you draw games. And Tevez gets our goals. Why do we need another goalscorer?

Now you're getting emotional DD, this is no way for a pack leader to behave (albeit a very small and timid pack). I still would like to know who the nineteenth Premiership manager is though?

 

[Bigga]

For a start, he IS in the squad, so that's your entire argument gone! What he isn't is in the starting 11 based on performance.

When Mancini says Johnson doesn't 'understand the game' he means

a) A trick or two doesn't make you 'world class'.

b) Help your defence out more than what you do.

c) Know the right run to make.

d) Know the right pass to make.

e) Know when to shoot and when not to.

f) Stop drinking excessively.

g) Stop being a celeb and concentrate on your job.

h) Shut the fook up.

I like the last bit, myself.

How about you shut the fook up and apply all of your pathetically constructed crap to Milner? He doesnt drink excessively? Bravo James. What else has he done consistently? Other than produce nothing. He's playing out of position. It's a complete waste of a player in terms of attacking.

Apart from being a dunce, let me explain this to you; even IF Milner hasn't produced much YET, he hasn't complained, he has knuckled down and worked whatever position he has been given. He has made some VERY crucial back track tackles which could have seen our defence opened up. Worth every bit as much as "two dribbles and two crosses". In fact, more so.

Milner is showing he's a team player how will get his chance in the position he wants soon enough. Right now, he's playing to wear the shirt every week.

Top pro.

Can you say that of moaning AJ?

 

[gio's side step]

He wasn't very quick on the counter against Birmingham. Johno is not an out-and-out pace player (like Bellamy). He should be good at cutting open static defences with his dribbling, and he is. He just doesn't do it for the full ninety. I'd like to know what the reason is. Unfortunately, to my mind, it's either arrogance of the variety that he doesn't have to do the business for ninety minutes and glimpses are enough, or it's fitness. Neither are indicative of professionalism. I'm someone who likes to see players given chances to get it right. Young players especially, so Onouha and Johno should be given some chances to get their head straight and learn to shut their mouths and put their frustration on to the pitch but it can't go on ad infinitum like Bellamy who now looks like he'll never will a medal because he couldn't learn to control himself.

NO attacking City player has done it for the full ninety all season other than Tevez in a couple of games.

 

[allan harper]

So johnson is now meant to be physic ! How does he suppose to know when to make the right pass or run ? So if his pass or run leads to a goal he's made the right choice and if it doesn't he's made the wrong choice ?
More Jargon bollocks, as a winger he should be able to express himself. Everything he does will not come off but if we won't him to check every run and stop taking the defenders on we might as well play SWP.

 

[lee-mcfc]

the sun. must be true

 

[Failsworth_Blue]

That doesn't of course take into account the amount of times he's wasted the ball when theres absolutely no need to try and beat a man. As i said twice within the first 10 minutes he tried to beat a man when there was an easy pass on and he ran the ball out of play, he's a good dribbler but he doesn't need to dribble with it all the time

He was effective against Liverpool because they pushed up and he could get one on one against their full back and there was space in behind, against the likes of Birmingham who will sit deep, invite pressure and are happy to defend all day you have to adapt your game, you have to realise you can't always beat the defender and you must use the ball much more effective than he has been doing

He's a young international with a hell of a talent. Most respected football fans from all clubs and journalists recognise he is one of England's brightest talents. I recall watching Ronaldo during his first/second season at Utd often trying too many tricks, sometimes being a little naive. I am not comparing him directly, but the principle is that I would rather have a top level talent learning and working at City, where we should be providing him the platform to develop into the top drawer player genuine fans (not self deceived or on a forza mancini agenda) believe and know he can be. Equally then, we continue to adopt safety, cautious square passes across the midfield and back to the defence. In fear we might have a player who is brave enough to TRY and attack against a player and produce a nose bleed for the rest of the team under Mancini's stewardship.

He may be young but the comparisons with Ronaldo aren't fair when you consider the age Ronaldo was when he first came compared to the age Johnson is now, he's not a kid, he's 23 years of age. I'm happy that we have Adam Johnson at the club but i also believe he doesn't offer enough when he starts to start on a consistant basis which is basically the whole point with regards to his comments. I think he can go on to be a very good player but i don't think he'll go on to be top drawer because his use of the ball in the final 3rd isn't good enough and hasn't shown many signs of improvement. I'm not saying this because i like Mancini, it's a completely seperate issue and it's something i'm commenting on based on what i've seen of Johnson not because of what Mancini has said about him

 

[Skashion]

NO attacking City player has done it for the full ninety all season other than Tevez in a couple of games.

Tevez is our only attacking player, we play 9-0-1.