Matty said:its a Barm said:sounds like he is fucked, won't be seeing him for a few years, have to feel sorry for him IF he did not know her age and she was in a club/pub then how was he to know, will have to wait and see.
That's the bit that worries me. The rumours are that he met this girl in a club and they went back to a hotel to "do the deed". Now, if true, then, for me, there's a concern. If she's in a club then she legally HAS to be 18, and Johnson surely has a right to expect the club to have done its legal duty? Also, if she's in a club then she's obviously pretending to be older than she is, is it right that there's an onus on Johnson to physically enquire about her age to see if she's being deceitful? She knows she's not old enough to be there, and that she's not old enough to have sex. She knows she's committing a criminal act or, more accurately, she's allowing Johnson to commit a criminal act. If he doesn't know, because he's assumed only an adult would be in an adults only venue, then, for me, that's not an unfair assumption to make.
stony said:Matty said:its a Barm said:sounds like he is fucked, won't be seeing him for a few years, have to feel sorry for him IF he did not know her age and she was in a club/pub then how was he to know, will have to wait and see.
That's the bit that worries me. The rumours are that he met this girl in a club and they went back to a hotel to "do the deed". Now, if true, then, for me, there's a concern. If she's in a club then she legally HAS to be 18, and Johnson surely has a right to expect the club to have done its legal duty? Also, if she's in a club then she's obviously pretending to be older than she is, is it right that there's an onus on Johnson to physically enquire about her age to see if she's being deceitful? She knows she's not old enough to be there, and that she's not old enough to have sex. She knows she's committing a criminal act or, more accurately, she's allowing Johnson to commit a criminal act. If he doesn't know, because he's assumed only an adult would be in an adults only venue, then, for me, that's not an unfair assumption to make.
That's not the rumour I heard. I heard she contacted him on twitter and asked for a shirt. She sent him a pic and he asked how old she was, she told him 15, and it went on from there.
I have no idea if that is true, but I saw part of a twitter screenshot(which has now been removed) about her telling all her friends about it. If he's been charged with grooming, I doubt he met her in a club.
stony said:Matty said:its a Barm said:sounds like he is fucked, won't be seeing him for a few years, have to feel sorry for him IF he did not know her age and she was in a club/pub then how was he to know, will have to wait and see.
That's the bit that worries me. The rumours are that he met this girl in a club and they went back to a hotel to "do the deed". Now, if true, then, for me, there's a concern. If she's in a club then she legally HAS to be 18, and Johnson surely has a right to expect the club to have done its legal duty? Also, if she's in a club then she's obviously pretending to be older than she is, is it right that there's an onus on Johnson to physically enquire about her age to see if she's being deceitful? She knows she's not old enough to be there, and that she's not old enough to have sex. She knows she's committing a criminal act or, more accurately, she's allowing Johnson to commit a criminal act. If he doesn't know, because he's assumed only an adult would be in an adults only venue, then, for me, that's not an unfair assumption to make.
That's not the rumour I heard. I heard she contacted him on twitter and asked for a shirt. She sent him a pic and he asked how old she was, she told him 15, and it went on from there.
I have no idea if that is true, but I saw part of a twitter screenshot(which has now been removed) about her telling all her friends about it. If he's been charged with grooming, I doubt he met her in a club.
They live in a bubble. They're millionaires, who work, on average, a 15 hour week. They have absolutely zero responsibilities. They are all part of one big boys club. Girls, and young ones at that, hang round them looking to get shagged - and get filmed by their mates.Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:Cannot understand these players. Shit for brains.
Then he's a ducking idiot and thrown his life and career away.pudge said:I can't imagine a charge of grooming could be issued if he believed she was over the age of consent; i.e. met her at a club.
I reckon since he's been charged with that then it's more likely that he knew her age.
Vienna_70 said:No doubt the media will report him as Adam Johnson, ex-Manchester City footballer.