Alan Henning has been beheaded

Rascal said:
intheknow! said:
You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

Great post. fucking great post


Why the fuck are we involved? Its fuck all to do with with us what they want from there lives and who the fuck are we to tell them its the right and proper way to behave. And we fucking bomb them for having ideals we dont agree with...that to to me is fucking shameful


Im not a great student of middle eastern politics but i kow we as in the UK with our friends has fucked the region up big time.


I heard on twitter today that Sweden was going to the first state to recognise Palestine. ..... Im not a student of the conflict there but i hope many other countries do as we need peace not conflict

So you are happy with genocide?
 
Rascal said:
intheknow! said:
You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

Great post. fucking great post


Why the fuck are we involved? Its fuck all to do with with us what they want from there lives and who the fuck are we to tell them its the right and proper way to behave. And we fucking bomb them for having ideals we dont agree with...that to to me is fucking shameful


Im not a great student of middle eastern politics but i kow we as in the UK with our friends has fucked the region up big time.


I heard on twitter today that Sweden was going to the first state to recognise Palestine. ..... Im not a student of the conflict there but i hope many other countries do as we need peace not conflict
Stalin would be proud of you, comrade.
 
Rascal said:
intheknow! said:
You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

Great post. fucking great post


Why the fuck are we involved? Its fuck all to do with with us what they want from there lives and who the fuck are we to tell them its the right and proper way to behave. And we fucking bomb them for having ideals we dont agree with...that to to me is fucking shameful


Im not a great student of middle eastern politics but i kow we as in the UK with our friends has fucked the region up big time.


I heard on twitter today that Sweden was going to the first state to recognise Palestine. ..... Im not a student of the conflict there but i hope many other countries do as we need peace not conflict
what would you have done about hitler??

Just out of interest ..... Remember we had to sort them out twice after millions had already died in ww1
 
marco said:
intheknow! said:
mancityvstoke said:
Leaving them alone isn't going to happen

You gonna go fight are u or leave the dirty work to others while u cheer on from Manchester?


if hes not a solder its not his job, but im sure there are many in the army that now want to get stuck in after tonights events

And probably as many like my nephew who served in Afganistan who would rather not
 
Rascal said:
intheknow! said:
You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

Great post. fucking great post


Why the fuck are we involved? Its fuck all to do with with us what they want from there lives and who the fuck are we to tell them its the right and proper way to behave. And we fucking bomb them for having ideals we dont agree with...that to to me is fucking shameful


Im not a great student of middle eastern politics but i kow we as in the UK with our friends has fucked the region up big time.


I heard on twitter today that Sweden was going to the first state to recognise Palestine. ..... Im not a student of the conflict there but i hope many other countries do as we need peace not conflict

But the thing is we aren't bombing them for their ideals. We are bombing them because they are going around committing genocide against innocent civilians because they don't have the same ideologies as they do. The question isn't whether we have made the middle east a worse place since the iraq war it's whether we are comfortable living in a world where a group of terrorists can go about murdering children while we sit back.
 
smudgedj said:
Just seen this - RIP Alan - I think the government need to get it's act together; if it means sending in troops so be it.

Sending in troops was so successful in Iraq and Afghanistan right?

You ok to see British soldiers fighting an insurgency, convinced they are fighting in the path of Allah? You ok to see British soldiers killed, limbs blown off,beheaded, so mentally tortured they kill themselves, end up in prison or plagued by mental illness? You okspending billions again that this country doesnt have on pointless unwinnable wars? I aint
 
Rascal said:
marco said:
intheknow! said:
You gonna go fight are u or leave the dirty work to others while u cheer on from Manchester?


if hes not a solder its not his job, but im sure there are many in the army that now want to get stuck in after tonights events

And probably as many like my nephew who served in Afganistan who would rather not

so why did he sign up
 
Rascal said:
intheknow! said:
You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

Great post. fucking great post


Why the fuck are we involved? Its fuck all to do with with us what they want from there lives and who the fuck are we to tell them its the right and proper way to behave. And we fucking bomb them for having ideals we dont agree with...that to to me is fucking shameful



Im not a great student of middle eastern politics but i kow we as in the UK with our friends has fucked the region up big time.


I heard on twitter today that Sweden was going to the first state to recognise Palestine. ..... Im not a student of the conflict there but i hope many other countries do as we need peace not conflict



It's a little bit more extreme than the, just having 'ideals we don't agree with'!

They are chopping heads of British citizens and threatening the stability of a region and if they do manage to create the state they want it will be at the expense of our Euorpean allies

I'm not a particularly keen on conflict/war because it is difficult to stop an ideal but it's gone too far, the things they have done are sickening and will only get worse without intervention
 
Sometimes , like my family who served and some who died in the first and Second World War , you have to stand and fight .... If you join the army you've joined and signed up to fight
 
Rascal said:
intheknow! said:
You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

Great post. fucking great post


Why the fuck are we involved? Its fuck all to do with with us what they want from there lives and who the fuck are we to tell them its the right and proper way to behave. And we fucking bomb them for having ideals we dont agree with...that to to me is fucking shameful


Im not a great student of middle eastern politics but i kow we as in the UK with our friends has fucked the region up big time.


I heard on twitter today that Sweden was going to the first state to recognise Palestine. ..... Im not a student of the conflict there but i hope many other countries do as we need peace not conflict


Have a read about the Armenian Genocide. The Turks deny it ever happened
 

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