Alcohol, hints, tips, advice etc.

[willipp]

I couldn’t effectively do my job if my drinking affected my performance in the way you allude to. I regularly compete with really clever people who would take me to pieces and humiliate me in a public setting if I couldn’t adequately perform.

If my drinking affected me professionally in the way you describe, I’d be finished in weeks. I’ve seen it happen to others and it’s brutal.

I wish Mendy would read this post.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Looks great mate but I like quirky things.

Aye.. me too

last post as this thread is about alcohol so I’m out

 

[jma]

That’s because tizer isn’t a drug/stimulant.

Well, yes, but there's nothing like the same sort if widespread joviality and celebrationary language used around other drugs or stimulants either (maybe barring some people with chocolate).

You don't have people happily pronouncing that they are desperate for a hit of smack in polite company. People probably even think twice about telling everyone about their cravings for nicotine these days as even a lot of smokers realise that it's a bit wank being addicted to it and it isn't really something to be pleased about.

The accepted language around booze though and the ease with which talking about not being able to go without it is passed off as normal makes it a lot easier for people to get in trouble with it or con themselves that heavy use doesn't affect their health (mental or physical) on some way.

I doubt you could tell people that you work with that you have or need 3 or 4 lots of anything - a certain food, episodes of The A Team, games of Monopoly, bottles of milk, whatever - every night without fail, without them thinking that you were an oddball. You probably wouldn't even admit it because you know they would. But booze has different rules and is discussed, in my opinion, dangerously differently.

 

[SWP's back]

Well, yes, but there's nothing like the same sort if widespread joviality and celebrationary language used around other drugs or stimulants either

There certainly was in the social groups I thought as part of in my 20’s.

 

[SWP's back]

I doubt you could tell people that you work with that you have or need 3 or 4 lots of anything - a certain food, episodes of The A Team, games of Monopoly, bottles of milk, whatever - every night without fail, without them thinking that you were an oddball. You probably wouldn't even admit it because you know they would. But booze has different rules and is discussed, in my opinion, dangerously differently.

I understand your point though yes. It does have different rules and it fucking deserves them.

 

[jma]

There certainly was in the social groups I thought as part of in my 20’s.

Yeah, and that'll possibly always be the case. You weren't going in to work and casually telling Doris the secretary that you always have a couple of Es every night after work just to relax though.

 

[SWP's back]

Yeah, and that'll possibly always be the case. You weren't going in to work and casually telling Doris the secretary that you always have a couple of Es every night after work just to relax though.

No I have always managed to maintain a certain professional savoir faire over the years.

 

[Marklr]

I do a 32 mile bike ride now on weekdays as I've found it's been great for my physical and mental health since I retired (doing a little consultancy at the minute but largely a man of leisure).

I've been going at 6 am recently as it's taking me around 2 hours as a maximum and I've seen loads of wildlife...

Today I saw Pheasants, Moorhens, Ducks, a squirrel and even a black cat crossed my path. As I got to the Blue Bridge at Queensferry I saw a guy drinking the dregs from a large bottle of Captain Morgan Rum... He looked at my bike like I was an alien who'd landed from outer space which I put down the drink even though the bike is quite funky... What a sad sight he was at 07:40 in the morning... I hope I never end up like that (largely teetotal at the minute)

Here's the bike... He'll probably need another bottle after seeing it


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I took up bike riding these last few years...yeah, it's so good for mind and body. When i get home from a 30 mile bike ride, it's like a real high! You get to see so much too....

 

[Marklr]

How much did the promotion of alcopops to kids in the 90s influence the levels of problem drinking in adults today?

They should do what they did with tobacco and stop promoting alcohol and gambling. Un-glamourise it all.
I'm all for people choosing what they want...but we don't need shit pushing on us.

 

[Bluemanc100]

I took up bike riding these last few years...yeah, it's so good for mind and body. When i get home from a 30 mile bike ride, it's like a real high! You get to see so much too....

It is brilliant… I look forward to every ride now which is only down to my determination … it’s so easy to say “nah, I won’t bother today”

We’re away for a week on a “Staycation” cruise at the end of the month so I’ll have to get on a recumbent gym bike onboard and keep the legs working

 

[Marklr]

It is brilliant… I look forward to every ride now which is only down to my determination … it’s so easy to say “nah, I won’t bother today”

We’re away for a week on a “Staycation” cruise at the end of the month so I’ll have to get on a recumbent gym bike onboard and keep the legs working

Even after a long break, it doesn't take much to get the legs back to normal after a few rides. I caught a train up to Hebden Bridge in Yorkshire last year with the misses and daughter and our bikes with the aim of riding back to Manchester along the canal. It's about 30 miles. The misses and daughter got to the next station and jumped on the train home!! I managed it though...it's a great ride. Some good countryside. Until you get back into Manchester at Ancoats!! Gangs of youths off their heads all around the canal.

 

[shackattack]

Do you remember the advert for White Lightning? They tried to make it trendy and appealing to young people by showing lots of party people having a good time with it haha. Like some ironic comedy sketch.
It's for alcoholics on benefits!! Good of those alcohol companies to think of the poorer alcoholics, wasn't it?

When I worked in substance misuse services we used to refer to it as Quite Frightening.

 

[Bradley82]

Every night in BAOR!

Oh indeed, and weekends were a blur. I was a devotee of the 'yellow handbag' I went back to where I was based three years ago and bought a couple of bottles of Herforder, the handbag itself is no more, I was amazed by how tasteless it was.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

As some contributors to this thread know, at the moment I am presently attempting to detox from alcohol. However, it's not going well this time around. I have not relapsed but am still experiencing episodes of moderate sweating, nausea, and slight tremors on the back of even mild physical exertion, after six days of complete abstention. For example, these symptoms kick-in if I walk more than 200 yards.

Have been like this since Wednesday.

In the past, I have been right as rain after five days, but this time I have plateaued, and I have been left wondering whether it is unusual to have these symptoms persist for so long or whether this is par for the course.

Not looking for specific medical advice here. Will be able to get that first thing tomorrow.

Just thought that anyone reading this who has been through alcohol withdrawal themselves (or is in possession of a better knowledge than I have about what detoxing entails), might have something to say when it comes to how my experience compares to theirs.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

As some contributors to this thread know, at the moment I am presently attempting to detox from alcohol. However, it's not going well this time around. I have not relapsed but am still experiencing episodes of moderate sweating, nausea, and slight tremors on the back of even mild physical exertion, after six days of complete abstention. For example, these symptoms kick-in if I walk more than 200 yards.

Have been like this since Wednesday.

In the past, I have been right as rain after five days, but this time I have plateaued, and I have been left wondering whether it is unusual to have these symptoms persist for so long or whether this is par for the course.

Not looking for specific medical advice here. Will be able to get that first thing tomorrow.

Just thought that anyone reading this who has been through alcohol withdrawal themselves (or is in possession of a better knowledge than I have about what detoxing entails), might have something to say when it comes to how my experience compares to theirs.

Try to maintain a decent food intake (I know it can be difficult), and also stay hydrated. You need to detoxify your body gently. Keeping your energy/vitamin/minerals topped up will certainly help you. Try to get a bit of light exercise, but don't overdo it at this stage. Just enough to kick start your body into cleaning itself up a bit.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

Thanks Trevor Morley’s Tache.

My appetite is variable but have been eating two meals a day and taking vitamin supplements that include a fair bit of thiamine.

Have also been out walking but that’s proven to be difficult because it provokes the sweating and nausea.

Maybe age is a factor here (I am 59) but my main concern is the persistence of the symptoms I mentioned. Don’t feel any different today to how I did on Wednesday. Even had a mild night sweat last night.

Am also wondering whether some kind of kindling effect might be at work too, given that I have previously engaged in several episodes of prolonged binge drinking already this year.

The only good thing is that I am not craving alcohol at this point.

 

[worsleyweb]

As I get older I can very much take or leave alchohol. Odd class of wine and maybe a bottle of beer when fancy it but drinking pint after pint? No thanks.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Thanks Trevor Morley’s Tache.

My appetite is variable but have been eating two meals a day and taking vitamin supplements that include a fair bit of thiamine.

Have also been out walking but that’s proven to be difficult because it provokes the sweating and nausea.

Maybe age is a factor here (I am 59) but my main concern is the persistence of the symptoms I mentioned. Don’t feel any different today to how I did on Wednesday. Even had a mild night sweat last night.

Am also wondering whether some kind of kindling effect might be at work too, given that I have previously engaged in several episodes of prolonged binge drinking already this year.

The only good thing is that I am not craving alcohol at this point.

Those symptoms are pretty typical of alcohol withdrawal. They will pass eventually, but it depends on many factors. Everyone is different. Don't worry too much. Just wait and see what advice you get tomorrow. In the meantime if it gets worse call 111.

 

[m7mcfc]

When I worked in substance misuse services we used to refer to it as Quite Frightening.

Cider? It has never seen an apple unless the delivery truck drove past an orchid.

 

[MellowJoe]

Bollocks to these hints and tips.. anyone got a cheat code?