Alexander Isak | Cried his way to a £130m move

Well so far it’s going great. Can’t get a single signing through the door, their first choice transfers going elsewhere as well as losing their best player to supposed rival in the league.

They have a manager who won't be attracting any superstars and none of them want to live there.
Conditions now are more challenging, I accept. However, they have no fear of financial failure anymore.
Plus, if they cintinue to buy shrewdly, and expand their stadium and general financials, it will take time but they can do it.
They don't even have to be clever about it. The established clubs are not run well, throwing money at problems instead of thinking ahead or working a way around it.
The biggest threat to Newcastle is fans becoming impatient for major success. They must trust the plan, even if they look like they are short-term regressing.
It will take a decade to get to current City levels, but they will get there*

*unless rules change again and teams wearing black, white, and sky blue, are only allowed to score from corners...
 
Over the past 12 to 18 months, it's become increasingly clear that those in charge have little idea how to properly run a football club. Since Amanda Staveley’s departure, the operation has descended into somewhat disarray (off the field) with Dan Ashworth leaving for United, Paul Mitchell coming in and leaving. Despite having Champions League football, they’re struggling to attract talents like Bryan Mbeumo - players who are instead leaning toward clubs like United, who finished 16th. That speaks volumes to me that.

You have to wonder why players like Alexander Isak or Tino Livramento would want to stay, when more ambitious clubs are offering them a real project and a chance to win major trophies.

They’ve effectively become a selling club. As soon as the elite come calling, their top talents will be out the door. Contrast that with City after our takeover, we never sold a marquee player. That’s the difference between a club with ambition and one without a clear direction. Eddie Howe has done a great job for Newcastle, but nobody wants to play under Eddie Howe so at some point they'll have to look for someone bigger and better. Players want to play for Pep Guardiola, Xabi Alonso and Arne Slot.
Howe won them a trophy after a gazillion years. He has gone in under extreme expectation, and has managed to give them that and chumps footy, so far.
You underestimate his abilities.
Ideally you keep your best players, but in this crazy psr world, selling players for top money is a way to break through.
Yes, it is manipulated by the cartel to be that way, but if they sell Tino and Isak for near 230 million, that is a tremendous bit of business for them.
I quietly wonder which clubs are laughing at which if those transfers both go through.
Newcastle are in a well placed position of having relative success but without realistic expectations of it.
The fans will pressure them to make a dent in the chumps and cups, but treading water for a few years isn't a bad thing as the club increases turnover and becomes an attractive proposition for players and advertisers.
Younger players will view Newcastle differently if they can keep elevating their profile and chances of success.
 
He will get a new long term contract with a huge pay rise.

In doing so he will be yet another player added to the cult's hate list, to be abused when he plays at Anfield.
 
Howe won them a trophy after a gazillion years. He has gone in under extreme expectation, and has managed to give them that and chumps footy, so far.
You underestimate his abilities.
Ideally you keep your best players, but in this crazy psr world, selling players for top money is a way to break through.
Yes, it is manipulated by the cartel to be that way, but if they sell Tino and Isak for near 230 million, that is a tremendous bit of business for them.
I quietly wonder which clubs are laughing at which if those transfers both go through.
Newcastle are in a well placed position of having relative success but without realistic expectations of it.
The fans will pressure them to make a dent in the chumps and cups, but treading water for a few years isn't a bad thing as the club increases turnover and becomes an attractive proposition for players and advertisers.
Younger players will view Newcastle differently if they can keep elevating their profile and chances of success.

It is if you can replace them.

They won't get a better striker than Isak in the next 5 years I reckon. The talent pool is just so tiny.

We benefitted greatly when we were coming up in the late 00s early 10s from the fact the talent pool in world football was immense.

Look at the amount of top strikers and midfielders available that were not even getting a look in by the top teams, of whom already had packed teams full of quality.

At one point we had Aguero, Dzeko, Tevez and Balotelli as 4 strikers which looking back was ridiculous.

Had we had them now, Aguero, Tevez and Dzeko would all be worth £100m ..Aguero would be £150m easily.

Players like David Silva would be talked about like Wirtz was this summer, and he was a player that Barcelona or Real Madrid didn't feel like they needed.

Having £250m in the bank is useless if the talent pool you are going to shop with it is so utterly poor.
 
Howe won them a trophy after a gazillion years. He has gone in under extreme expectation, and has managed to give them that and chumps footy, so far.
You underestimate his abilities.
Ideally you keep your best players, but in this crazy psr world, selling players for top money is a way to break through.
Yes, it is manipulated by the cartel to be that way, but if they sell Tino and Isak for near 230 million, that is a tremendous bit of business for them.
I quietly wonder which clubs are laughing at which if those transfers both go through.
Newcastle are in a well placed position of having relative success but without realistic expectations of it.
The fans will pressure them to make a dent in the chumps and cups, but treading water for a few years isn't a bad thing as the club increases turnover and becomes an attractive proposition for players and advertisers.
Younger players will view Newcastle differently if they can keep elevating their profile and chances of success.
Don't think that statement is an underestimation of Howe and if they have any ambition whatsoever,im pretty sure they'd rather not sell either
 
It is if you can replace them.

They won't get a better striker than Isak in the next 5 years I reckon. The talent pool is just so tiny.

We benefitted greatly when we were coming up in the late 00s early 10s from the fact the talent pool in world football was immense.

Look at the amount of top strikers and midfielders available that were not even getting a look in by the top teams, of whom already had packed teams full of quality.

At one point we had Aguero, Dzeko, Tevez and Balotelli as 4 strikers which looking back was ridiculous.

Had we had them now, Aguero, Tevez and Dzeko would all be worth £100m ..Aguero would be £150m easily.

Players like David Silva would be talked about like Wirtz was this summer, and he was a player that Barcelona or Real Madrid didn't feel like they needed.

Having £250m in the bank is useless if the talent pool you are going to shop with it is so utterly poor.
Correct and like I said,with any sort of ambition,im pretty sure they wouldn't want to sell either
 
Again, I'd be surprised if Newcastle sold Isak to Liverpool. Only if Liverpool offer crazy money, say, 150m plus add-ons Newcastle may decide to do the deal. Isak is good but not that good.
It is happening mate. Would be surprised if he didn't end up there, way too much momentum on it now.
 
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Must be crazy money then. Let's see what happens.
it will be north of a 130m id say which is crazy money and quite frankly the pressure on them will be insane, if they dont win absolutely everything this year it has to be seen as a failure of a season with that level of outlay, not to mention the massive wages given to van disney and salah
 
It is completely to do with PSR. This is not because Eddie Howe doesn't have any pull.

They can't offer the same wages as Man Utd and Liverpool due to PSR rules and regulations.
Yep, you would be comparing apples and oranges if trying to compare our start under Mansour to Newcastle under PIF. We got in just as the drawbridge pulled up.
 
Howe won them a trophy after a gazillion years. He has gone in under extreme expectation, and has managed to give them that and chumps footy, so far.
You underestimate his abilities.
Ideally you keep your best players, but in this crazy psr world, selling players for top money is a way to break through.
Yes, it is manipulated by the cartel to be that way, but if they sell Tino and Isak for near 230 million, that is a tremendous bit of business for them.
I quietly wonder which clubs are laughing at which if those transfers both go through.
Newcastle are in a well placed position of having relative success but without realistic expectations of it.
The fans will pressure them to make a dent in the chumps and cups, but treading water for a few years isn't a bad thing as the club increases turnover and becomes an attractive proposition for players and advertisers.
Younger players will view Newcastle differently if they can keep elevating their profile and chances of success.

At some point, supporters are right to question the direction of their football club. What is the long-term vision? Is the ambition to establish themselves among the elite - consistently challenging for titles and competing with Europe's best or to follow the model of clubs like Brighton, who buy low, develop talent, and sell high?

There’s nothing inherently wrong with smart recruitment and sustainable business models. But when a club with newfound resources and aspirations to break into the top tier begins selling its best players especially to direct rivals, then that does send a concerning message. Players like Benjamin Sesko, for example may look at situations like this and begin to question the trajectory of a club like Newcastle United. If a club appears willing to part with its top talents, what message does that send to those considering a move?

Take the hypothetical sale of Alexander Isak. Even if Newcastle were to receive £150 million, such a move would undermine the image of a club with serious intent. It would suggest that Newcastle are not yet ready to compete with, or resist the pull of established powerhouses. It becomes less about being part of something lasting, and more about using the club as a platform or a stepping stone to boost their value and reputation before securing a move elsewhere.

For a club aspiring to be part of football’s elite, that perception can be damaging. The best players want to be part of a destination, not a transition.

Clubs like us have built our dominance by refusing to part with key players. If Real Madrid came calling, City wouldn't entertain offers for the likes of Kevin De Bruyne, Bernardo/David Silva, or Sergio Agüero in their prime. They drew a line. They signalled to the Football World that our top talent are untouchable - because winning, not selling, was the priority.

Newcastle United must decide which narrative they wish to write. Selling players like Isak, no matter the price, risks casting the club in a role it surely wishes to move beyond: a club on the rise, but not yet among the truly elite. These next few weeks will be massive for Newcastle United.
 
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Is it just me who thinks he is a just a good player.
I certainly don’t see him as a £100m plus player.
I know now there’s a lack of decent centre forwards but if Newcastle get £130m just take it
 
Is it just me who thinks he is a just a good player.
I certainly don’t see him as a £100m plus player.
I know now there’s a lack of decent centre forwards but if Newcastle get £130m just take it
He is good but Liverpool is a whole different style of play he’ll get marked much more and won’t have half the space he gets now.
 
Is it just me who thinks he is a just a good player.
I certainly don’t see him as a £100m plus player.
I know now there’s a lack of decent centre forwards but if Newcastle get £130m just take it


If Hugo Ekitike is worth £70 million and Wirtz over a £100 million then in todays vastly inflated market I reckon Isak is worth that amount.

Seems mad but there it is.
 
If Hugo Ekitike is worth £70 million and Wirtz over a £100 million then in todays vastly inflated market I reckon Isak is worth that amount.

Seems mad but there it is.

He’s not a Benzema, a prime Lewandowski, Ronaldo, C Ronaldo or Henry. But in today’s game, where proper strikers are hard to come by, he’s worth every bit of 130 to 150 million. There aren’t many around who can do what he does, and that kind of quality comes at a premium now. Whatever Liverpool spend on him, he will be worth it to them.
 
He’s not a Benzema, a prime Lewandowski, Ronaldo, C Ronaldo or Henry. But in today’s game, where proper strikers are hard to come by, he’s worth every bit of 130 to 150 million. There aren’t many around who can do what he does, and that kind of quality comes at a premium now. Whatever Liverpool spend on him, he will be worth it to them.


They'd be worth a stupid amount now at the top of their game, as you rightly say in todays market it is what it is.

There is of course a bubble going to burst soon in football and when it goes clubs are going to have some right old tat in their inventories.
 
Newcastle put a value on his head , say £130m , Liverpool can’t get near it and offer a max of £120m

Newcastle knock back their bids and Isaac signs a new big contract with a release clause of £120m that becomes active next summer

Newcastle save a bit of face and Liverpool get their man next season

Meanwhile Newcastle quietly sell Livramento to City for £70m , which frees up the funds for Issacs pay rise and allows them to build their squad out for CL football
 
Newcastle put a value on his head , say £130m , Liverpool can’t get near it and offer a max of £120m

Newcastle knock back their bids and Isaac signs a new big contract with a release clause of £120m that becomes active next summer

Newcastle save a bit of face and Liverpool get their man next season

Meanwhile Newcastle quietly sell Livramento to City for £70m , which frees up the funds for Issacs pay rise and allows them to build their squad out for CL football

 

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