Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Bluemanc100 said:
The government have made mistakes for sure ... I’d have kept us all locked down for Xmas and I think he dropped a huge bollock lifting everybody’s hopes but we are where we are..

It didn’t take a genius to see what was coming today and I (for one) didn’t really expect Christmas to come and go without pain.. my missus was keen to see our sons because (despite being relatively well now) she has Lumphoma and we need to take every single chance we get to make memories now but despite this I don’t feel real anger for Bojo.. Id feel sorry for anybody who had to make these calls...
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people are taking the piss and making the decision harder for anyone in charge every single day. Not to alleviate culpability on people making poor decisions, but the general population are being arses (as seen at St Pancras tonight) and aren't helping.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
people are taking the piss and making the decision harder for anyone in charge every single day. Not to alleviate culpability on people making poor decisions, but the general population are being arses (as seen at St Pancras tonight) and aren't helping.
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While this is true and would be to an extent no matter how decisive the government or Boris had been, the shambles overseen by him has given extra licence to those who want to make their own rules
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
people are taking the piss and making the decision harder for anyone in charge every single day. Not to alleviate culpability on people making poor decisions, but the general population are being arses (as seen at St Pancras tonight) and aren't helping.
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I agree with that but it doesn't take away from the fact that this government has sent out mixed messages from the start.

"Starmer wants to cancel Christmas, we won't cancel Christmas" Are we really supposed to believe they didn't know this was coming a few days ago?
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
people are taking the piss and making the decision harder for anyone in charge every single day. Not to alleviate culpability on people making poor decisions, but the general population are being arses (as seen at St Pancras tonight) and aren't helping.
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You are falling into the Governments trap - don't start blaming it on the people for being arseholes - thats what they want us to do - the Governments handling of this has been poor from Johnson ducking out of Cobra meetings at the start to bunging a mate £150m for PPE that was useless to last minute U turns based upon an attempt to make political capital out of the situation just prior to doing the U turn. Its always been about leadership and clarity of message - both AWOL in 2020
 
It pretty much all boils down to him just being a coward. Not brave enough to make decisions until he is forced to by everything going to shit, not strong enough to see where things are going in advance and taking proactive measures. Wants so desperately to play good cop and be liked, rather than be an actual leader.
 
Bluemanc100 said:
The government have made mistakes for sure ... I’d have kept us all locked down for Xmas and I think he dropped a huge bollock lifting everybody’s hopes but we are where we are..

It didn’t take a genius to see what was coming today and I (for one) didn’t really expect Christmas to come and go without pain.. my missus was keen to see our sons because (despite being relatively well now) she has Lumphoma and we need to take every single chance we get to make memories now but despite this I don’t feel real anger for Bojo.. Id feel sorry for anybody who had to make these calls...
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Making the calls, perhaps. I feel intense anger that him and his cabinet colleagues took the opportunity to fleece all of us by signing PPE contracts with their mates though.
 
meltonblue said:
Making the calls, perhaps. I feel intense anger that him and his cabinet colleagues took the opportunity to fleece all of us by signing PPE contracts with their mates though.
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Humour me... how is that fleecing us all?

I don’t know enough to comment on the contracts and who got them but assuming you’re right, somebody was going to do well out of the pandemic so (unless the contracts were agreed / negotiated to be in excess of the going rate) some fat cat was always going to get even fatter.. these are subjects that need to be investigated independently and I assume have been or will be?
 
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