Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[bluethrunthru]

Ostalgia is a thing

 

[bluethrunthru]

Some Poles don't think all has been great either. The idea that the opportunity to be exploited for the wealth of others and aren't keen on the rise of the right having fought a war against it

Lost and Found: Communism Nostalgia and Communist Chic Among Poland’s Old and Young Generations - Humanity in Action

How do Poles remember communism? The year 2009 marks the twentieth anniversary of the demise of the Polish People’s Republic, and memories of the PRL can be found in the museums dedicating exhibits to the Solidarity Movement and displaying the wretchedness of life under the Soviet Union’s iron...

www.humanityinaction.org

 

[Len Rum]

Thatcher thought that by opening up the economy and loosening regulations, people would do the right thing and be ethical. It was a little naive of her but during the 80s when the yuppy craze kicked off and greed took over in London, she was horrified and disgusted in people’s behaviour.
That’s neither a criticism nor a compliment I’m paying her, merely an observation of what those around her at the time said she did/thought.

Where did you read that mate?
Not the way I remember it.

 

[Ban-jani]

Where did you read that mate?
Not the way I remember it.

It was on the BBC documentary, I think to give an example, Tebbit said she was disgusted at people’s behaviour at the time.

 

[Len Rum]

It was on the BBC documentary, I think to give an example, Tebbit said she was disgusted at people’s behaviour at the time.

Well I wouldn't take that as gospel.
Thatcher did a lot of things without thinking through the consequences - Council House sales without replenishing stock for rent, public spending cuts which left infrastructure in major cities in crisis ( London recovered following the Mayoral initiative, other cities still feeling affect today), poll tax ( nuff said).

 

[Ban-jani]

Well I wouldn't take that as gospel.
Thatcher did a lot of things without thinking through the consequences - Council House sales without replenishing stock for rent, public spending cuts which left infrastructure in major cities in crisis ( London recovered following the Mayoral initiative, other cities still feeling affect today), poll tax ( nuff said).

Well these are all different points and the documentary wasn’t just a pro Thatcher series, it was warts and all.

Poll tax was ridiculous, the sale of council houses I don’t have a problem with, it was subsequent governments not building more that caused the crisis, coupled with the population rising significantly.

 

[journolud]

Did the population rise more than it was projected to?

 

[Chris in London]

the sale of council houses I don’t have a problem with, it was subsequent governments not building more that caused the crisis,

Actually, the law at the time prevented local authorities from using the proceeds of sale of council properties to build more council houses

 

[Ban-jani]

Actually, the law at the time prevented local authorities from using the proceeds of sale of council properties to build more council houses

I know the money was spent elsewhere but to be fair, at the time, they didn’t actually have a housing crisis.

I think every government since Thatcher has been culpable, as they’ve not built and encouraged mass immigration, it was always going to cause a housing crisis.

 

[Vic]

The important thing isn’t what those at the top have, it’s what those at the bottom have and in a capitalist system, those at the bottom are far better off than those not in a capitalist system. Just ask anyone who’s left a socialist system why they did.

The happiest societies are those where there is not great disparity of wealth. They can be capitalist.

Viral inequality: Billionaires gained $3.9tn, workers lost $3.7tn in 2020

A new Oxfam report finds the pandemic has aggravated inequality, as the world's richest have made massive gains while the world's poor have fallen further behind.

www.trtworld.com

And it's obvious that economic growth is more likely when money is in the hands of the poor, because they spend their wages rather than hoard their tax cuts. (We have exchanged the certain spending of the poor for the discretionary spending of the rich - Galbraith on Reagonomics.) It's why austerity made things worse, deliberately.