Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[bluethrunthru]

This is so f**king depressing.

That was tooooo close for comfort lol

 

[bluethrunthru]

Ambushed by a diary this time? Heads will roll - none of them his.

So who DID call the Boris and Sue Gray Partygate meeting?

A war of words broke out yesterday over a meeting between Boris Johnson and Sue Gray ahead of her long-awaited Partygate report, after both sides denied initiating the meeting.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[bluethrunthru]

I suppose its all about what you see as your priorities

i Front Page 23rd of May 2022 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!

In anticipation of the publication of the Sue Gray report into lockdown parties at Downing Street, the government is preparing to defend Boris Johnson over Partygate, reports the i.

www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk

 

[bluethrunthru]

Of course the day the Sue Gray report lands will be the day they announce a windfall tax won't it?

 

[bluethrunthru]

as dead cats go this is pretty pathetic - still I suppose that they can be fobbed off with a letter and not expect him to feed them through their summer holidays

 

[Len Rum]

Looks as though the Dom's on his case again.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Looks as though the Dom's on his case again.

If he had anything he would have landed the knockout blow by now - he is just sore at not being in the headlines and out manoeuvred by a man he describes as a shopping trolley

 

[Len Rum]

If he had anything he would have landed the knockout blow by now - he is just sore at not being in the headlines and out manoeuvred by a man he describes as a shopping trolley

Possibly.
But he ( the Dom) seems confident.
We'll see!

 

[mosssideblue]

Possibly.
But he ( the Dom) seems confident.
We'll see!

What's the murmurings?

 

[west didsblue]

I actually agree with some of this, especially the PPE issue and to some extent the track and trace balls up. But what always makes me wonder when discussing this topic is the fact people who say we locked down two weeks too late/a month too late & didn't stop people coming from India etc. never agree with this though: we didn't get channel boat crossings down to zero in 2020 and 2021, when we should have.

So even if we'd locked down quicker or banned the flights from India, it wouldn't have mattered anyway without the other thing. If they'd blocked up the big hole on the side of the Titanic but left a couple of smaller holes open to the sea, it would have still sank eventually and I think the government knew this. Unlike say New Zealand a total 100% covid-zero strategy wouldn't work for geographic reasons and unlike say S. Korea a similar, zero-covid policy was never achievable because we are not that type of society. In the early stages of the pandemic I remember reading that in S. Korea a bloke went into 3 nightclubs and then a mini-market and then was found to have symptoms. Within 48 hours thousands of people who had been in those venues were traced and told to isolate, purely because the government had their debit card details on record. We don't even have identity cards!

If our government had our debit card data and addresses, we could have done a similar thing and saved £20 billion plus on that delayed phone app too! But I ask: would you want that level of state control in your life?

You've unintentionally proven my point with your analogy. If a large hole in the Titanic was blocked up and a few small ones left, then the ship would have indeed sunk, however they would have had longer to get lifeboats launched and a rescue party in place and less lives would have been lost. Reading back across to Covid, a more proactive approach would have slowed down the spread and saved lives. Yes, Covid would still have killed lots of people but maybe a few 10s of thousands less. The same number would probably eventually have caught it but by then treatments and vaccines would have been in place to save some of them.