Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Saddleworth2 said:
Ok mate, thanks for the clarification. I am probably not the best person to give a balanced view as I truly think he is a marvellous and exceptional human being above all else. I have always found him inspirational. I do think it took an exceptional candidate to become first black potus so I do see that as a standalone achievement. His presidency had ups and downs but I believe he always tried to do the ‘right thing‘ be that foreign policy or Obamacare. His failure to improve gun control was a failure but let’s face it, it’s not an easy thing to do in the States. He also battled against GOP control in both houses for much of his presidency. that he did make progress with the economy and social justice against that background to me makes him a very good president. He went through two tenures and finished with @ very high personal rating. He has acted with decency and kindness and with Michelle is still an aspirational role model to millions. Which is why I reacted to ‘overated’. But as I have said, I am a bit of a fan boy.
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Was this supposed to be to me?

If so, yeah I agree it was a great achievement and he was probably the best candidate for decades on paper. His term didn’t really change much and how much of that being his fault, I don’t know but I think the man is very impressive, his term just good. I think the former is what people tend to take.

Michelle makes me laugh. Why is she qualified to do anything? She’s just the spouse of someone doing a job. Not being sexist, if Theresa May’s husband started piping up I’d tell him to shut up too.

This, whilst being a little rude with it being stand up, is where I’m coming from...

 
Ban-jani said:
Oh, it practically answered my post and not his.

Never mind.

At least I’ve answered you on the point of Obama’s race not being an issue.
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You have lost me on that first sentence.
I didn't question you about Obama's race being an issue. I asked you, if you think he is 'overrated' who do you rate as a politician?
 
Saddleworth2 said:
You have lost me on that first sentence.
I didn't question you about Obama's race being an issue. I asked you, if you think he is 'overrated' who do you rate as a politician?
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You said this -
Better ask him mate. His standards.
Don’t you think it was an achievement of note to become first black POTUS? or are you suggesting colour doesn‘t come into politics in the USA?
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I was just answering it.

I do rate him, doesn’t mean I don’t think some overrate him.

American politicians I rate are Obama, Bill Clinton (although a despicable man), Reagan (although he’s too right wing for me).

British ones I rate are Blair, Thatcher, Attlee, Churchill, I think had the most ability, not that I agree with them all necessarily.

I am big fan of Starmer to be honest and I want him to be the next PM.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Hey @Bigga — look! You and Tucker Carlson agree on something.

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Carlson taking the piss there.

I'd feel the same as she does of I was told there's credible information I was going to be murdered at work and one of my colleagues who supported it was still in the same place.
 
She’s raised $3m for Texans whilst their own senator hopped onto a plane to Mexico with his family for a little jolly.

Remarkable woman.
 
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