Another cop out post.
Does nobody want to directly counter points or is it because you all cannot?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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Another cop out post.
Does nobody want to directly counter points or is it because you all cannot?
Mate there’s a whole fucking movement in multiple countries borne out of police brutality against minorities and now highlighting widespread inequality and prejudice.
You even said in your own post you have quotas you have to hit in your work place! Have you stopped to ask yourself why you have those quotas? And why there isn’t quotas for hiring white men?
Here’s a clue.... maybe because we don’t have equality in our society?
And your suggestion that every single CEO has worked their arse off to get where they are and what’s held women back is their uterus is absurd. It’s like an argument from the 1950s.
Anyway we are clearly poles apart so let’s just leave it. My fault for getting drawn back in.
Yes and I think the movement is hysterical and over the top, especially in the UK.
There is a definite need to make changes in the US and the police can and are grotesque at times but it is the odd one and the wider issues that affect young black men, like 80% of them dying the hands of other young black men and 70% of black families having one parent, with this being the number one contributing factor to being unsuccessful in western society, is totally and utterly ignored.
Unfortunately in the US the police have to deal with guns, unlike here. When they turn up to a BAU scenario, they’ve at risk of being shot every time. Unfortunately some are racist and some are likely too nervous to act responsibly.
They need better background checks to weed out the racists and more training to deal with situations.
In the UK there isn’t a problem. Some areas have higher stop at search rates against black lads but the majority are in inner city London, in the black community, where young black lads stab young black lads and they need to find the knives.
The unpopular and difficult truth is in these areas where crime is an epidemic, it’s mostly black youths doing it and therefore they’re stopped more.
If there was a crime epidemic with weapons in rural Derbyshire, more white kids would be stopped.
More white people as a percentage die in police custody here than BAME anyway.
We have fucking quotas because of the vocal minority of people with your bloody views.
I disagree with them, the best person should get the job and we shouldn’t even see colour but liberals like you won’t let it go.
Companies have diversity schemes and quotas mostly for PR purposes, not a moral crusade. They don’t want the press to say “Barclays Bank has few black people in management jobs and no diversity scheme”. Their share price then plummets and they’re ripped to pieces.
It may be the best 5 people are white blokes, but then again you wouldn’t believe that.
The fact there are diversity quotas doesn’t mean there’s a problem, it’s supposedly done to ensure the company reflects society, not to actually make change, so it’s done retrospectively to ensure they’ve interviewed and hired enough minorities across the business.
They’re not doing it for the sake of minorities, they know they’re not racist, they’re doing it so they have it as an insurance policy if claims are made against the business.
Yes every single CEO for an industry leader has worked their arse off, without exception. You do not get there without being the best. You’re not just trying to gain approval from shareholders, a parent company or your colleagues, you’re convincing them you’re better experienced than everyone else at board level already.
It’s why the average age of CEO’s is 15 years higher than the average working age.
I think you lack a basic understanding of how people get into these top positions and why.
The reason women are lagging behind men in top positions is because THEY CHOOSE to start families, men aren’t forcing them to, many women want to raise children and in doing so, you lose a minimum whole year on your competition and that’s only if you have one child.
Why anyone thinks this is sexist or is a dig at women is beyond me, they’re doing the most important thing when they make this decision, bringing through the next generation.
Me hiring a few IT Directors isn’t as important as what my Mrs will do whilst on maternity leave.
Women on average CHOOSE to work less hours also. Many don’t want to be 100% competitive all the time, working 60 hours a week, for years, to beat people that will stop at nothing to beat them.
Some do but it’s a lot less of a percentage than men in those positions.
There’s always a why and ignoring it, putting your fingers in your ears and shouting “racist” isn’t going to help you.
FogBlueInSanFran
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You give her openings this wide like the dumbfuck idiot that you are, Trump, and she's gonna take them:
bluethrunthru
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we should all just be issued with a rubber stamp that reads " Trump is a thick racist " - save us having to write it out longhand - on line you can just save it drop it in where required.
bluethrunthru
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Bigga
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Well, she proved all her haters wrong, yesterday, by smashing her opponent by 18% pts ahead as she did when she was first elected.
Again, another one who was outfunded by a huge degree. More money is clearly not working anymore for est Dems.
People want policies.
I like Ilhan Omar, but she out raised and out spent her primary challenger. Not sure where you got this idea from? The data is easily available:
2020 Election United States House - Minnesota - District 05 - FEC.gov
Explore current and historic federal campaign finance data on the new fec.gov. Look at totals and trends, and see how candidates and committees raise and spend money. When you find what you need, export results and save custom links.
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Bigga
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I like Ilhan Omar, but she out raised and out spent her primary challenger. Not sure where you got this idea from? The data is easily available:
2020 Election United States House - Minnesota - District 05 - FEC.gov
Explore current and historic federal campaign finance data on the new fec.gov. Look at totals and trends, and see how candidates and committees raise and spend money. When you find what you need, export results and save custom links.
Corrected, yes. I was looking at other Progressive financial data where they've been outfunded at least 10 fold by opponents.
Omar has bucked the trend by about $100k.
Very rare for a progressive.
FogBlueInSanFran
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Because, if it wasn't clear to any of you, there are a few here who haven't spent a single day attempting to understand American politics yet spend countless hours pretending that they have, I'll allow the following link to explain AOC's second of Sanders' nomination here.
Not that this will make said few any smarter -- typically idiots are always idiots, and lazy ones at that -- but for those of you who didn't understand it and were thoughtful enough not to leap to the instant conclusion that she was "turning against" Biden (who she supports and will vote for).
Here's why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez nominated Bernie Sanders during the Democratic National Convention
Many were confused when Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez nominated Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, but her speech was part of convention procedure.
www.usatoday.com
Not that this will make said few any smarter -- typically idiots are always idiots, and lazy ones at that -- but for those of you who didn't understand it and were thoughtful enough not to leap to the instant conclusion that she was "turning against" Biden (who she supports and will vote for).
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Because, if it wasn't clear to any of you, there are a few here who haven't spent a single day attempting to understand American politics yet spend countless hours pretending that they have, I'll allow the following link to explain AOC's second of Sanders' nomination here.
Here's why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez nominated Bernie Sanders during the Democratic National Convention
Many were confused when Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez nominated Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, but her speech was part of convention procedure.www.usatoday.com
Not that this will make said few any smarter -- typically idiots are always idiots, and lazy ones at that -- but for those of you who didn't understand it and were thoughtful enough not to leap to the instant conclusion that she was "turning against" Biden (who she supports and will vote for).
Depressing yet not unsurprising way to have to turn 100 pages pal ...
Trevor Morley's Tache
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AOC - Officially boiling Republican piss since 03 Jan 2019.
FogBlueInSanFran
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Time to bump this thread with the admission that I am falling more and more in love with this woman. We may not agree on everything — or even many things — but she (or whoever’s doing her tweets for her) is pretty good at getting in some zingers.
Saddleworth2
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I thought she was an exceptional person when I first watched the Netflix doc. Nothing I’ve seen so far has made me change my mind.
Serious answer?
She believes in universal healthcare, dismantling for-profit prisons, abortion should be legal, climate change is real and the USA should be part of the Paris accords, students shouldn't pay $50,000 a year tuition, assault rifles should not be sold to anyone over 18, and LGBT people should have basic rights like marriage.
So in terms of UK politics, she would not even be considered a progressive tory. Her core policies would be things the modern conservative party in the UK would not blink at.
Her main economic policy is believing in a marginal tax rate of 70% for earnings over $10,000,000 which puts her in line with Reagan, Nixon and Thatcher.
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No it's the way I phrased it, she wants them controlled, either banned entirely or very strictly monitored.