Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[ChicagoBlue]

I doubt that she knows anything at all about the issues that affect the majority.
And, whatever you think of Trump, there are now a hell of a lot more people actually receiving a paycheck,
employment is now at its highest for 50 years.

I’m going to assume you understand how that works.

Larger population...more people work.

Now, give ME $2 TRILLION to goose the economy, and I’ll show you some jobs numbers that’ll make your eyes water!!

There are NO simplistic answers when it comes to economic advancement, the effects it has on jobs, tax revenues, inflation and the like. I know Trump NEEDS you to know that Black and Hispanic employment is at record highs, but that’s a cheap stunt to make you think HE did something about that!!! The Black and Hispanic populations are also at record highs...Hmmm...I wonder if THAT statistic will make his base happy???

Oh well, at least he is keeping the Hispanics who want to come in locked in cages at the border! Gotta love that, right?!

#MAGA #KAG

That said, you can bring in all the 13 & 14 yr old girls you can find, as he knows a guy who can get them a job. It’s a blow job for guys like Trump, Epstein, Derschowitz & Co, but hey, a job is a job...Am I right?!

 

[Ban-jani]

There is no spec of evidence supporting this claim.
Even theoretical, it makes very little sense. As politicians in general go in to execute whatever policy they believe in. Those policies are independent of whether they were once a working class person or not.

It's only real value (it seems to me) it's in its ability to garner votes by implying that 'we are for you but they are not'.

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My understanding is there isn’t a study on it yet, in politics, to decide either way but it’s fairly obvious in any role someone does, if they are responsible for people where they’ve previously been in a similar position to, they tend to look more favourably on them.

 

[idahoblues]

I’m going to assume you understand how that works.

Larger population...more people work.

Now, give ME $2 TRILLION to goose the economy, and I’ll show you some jobs numbers that’ll make your eyes water!!

There are NO simplistic answers when it comes to economic advancement, the effects it has on jobs, tax revenues, inflation and the like. I know Trump NEEDS you to know that Black and Hispanic employment is at record highs, but that’s a cheap stunt to make you think HE did something about that!!! The Black and Hispanic populations are also at record highs...Hmmm...I wonder if THAT statistic will make his base happy???

Oh well, at least he is keeping the Hispanics who want to come in locked in cages at the border! Gotta love that, right?!

#MAGA #KAG

That said, you can bring in all the 13 & 14 yr old girls you can find, as he knows a guy who can get them a job. It’s a blow job for guys like Trump, Epstein, Derschowitz & Co, but hey, a job is a job...Am I right?!

One of the roofer's I use who happens to be a Trumper told me yesterday that he couldn't help me on a project because ICE had been targeting his amigo's so much that he'd lost two crews, guys that have been living here for years paying taxes. I wanted to hear his feelings on it but thought better to let it go, it probably would have ended in tears

 

[Dax777]

My understanding is there isn’t a study on it yet, in politics, to decide either way but it’s fairly obvious in any role someone does, if they are responsible for people where they’ve previously been in a similar position to, they tend to look more favourably on them.

Again, sure it feels intuitively true, but there are many things that feel intuitively true that aren't.

Many a coworker have whined about other coworkers who went from an equal to management and then become even worse bosses than the previous bosses. This isn't actually controversial, being a good boss often has little to do with whether you were once a line worker.

And even more importantly your claim will only be tangentially relevant if both Person A and Person B intended to implement the exact same plan. There perhaps you could argue, let's follow the lady who was once like us.

But if Person A and Person B intend to implement different plans, then it matters not at all whether one or the other was once like you. Rather what matters is what effect will each person's plan have on you.

 

[Ban-jani]

Again, sure it feels intuitively true, but there are many things that feel intuitively true that aren't.

Many a coworker have whined about other coworkers who went from an equal to management and then become even worse bosses than the previous bosses. This isn't actually controversial, being a good boss often has little to do with whether you were once a line worker.

And even more importantly your claim will only be tangentially relevant if both Person A and Person B intended to implement the exact same plan. There perhaps you could argue, let's follow the lady who was once like us.

But if Person A and Person B intend to implement different plans, then it matters not at all whether one or the other was once like you. Rather what matters is what effect will each person's plan have on you.

It’s definitely hard to measure but I feel that in my experience the better managers or Business Partners I’ve dealt with, I’ve had have done the role themselves.

When looking at recent leaders in this country, it’s not the privately educated Eton boys that give a shit about the working class, it’s usually them that are the worst.

I don’t foresee us getting anywhere with this to be honest mate, there’s not a unit, study or publication to prove either correct, I think it’s best we agree to disagree on the merits of humble beginnings and leadership and move on.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

It’s definitely hard to measure but I feel that in my experience the better managers or Business Partners I’ve dealt with, I’ve had have done the role themselves.

When looking at recent leaders in this country, it’s not the privately educated Eton boys that give a shit about the working class, it’s usually them that are the worst.

I don’t foresee us getting anywhere with this to be honest mate, there’s not a unit, study or publication to prove either correct, I think it’s best we agree to disagree on the merits of humble beginnings and leadership and move on.

And this has been exactly my experience.

All, and I mean all the best managers I have worker for and with have done the role from the ground up at one point in their careers. Having said that, I have also worked for and with some good project managers who have never done the role, but they always work very closely with people who have.

 

[Dax777]

It’s definitely hard to measure but I feel that in my experience the better managers or Business Partners I’ve dealt with, I’ve had have done the role themselves.

When looking at recent leaders in this country, it’s not the privately educated Eton boys that give a shit about the working class, it’s usually them that are the worst.

I don’t foresee us getting anywhere with this to be honest mate, there’s not a unit, study or publication to prove either correct, I think it’s best we agree to disagree on the merits of humble beginnings and leadership and move on.

Actually, i think we both are in agreement that I'm right on one point

As I have not argued the opposite position is correct. I've simply argued that the position you believe has not been proven yet. Which according to the bolded above you agree it hasn't.

On a side note, I'm in America so I'm not as familiar with the Eton boys. I am assuming those are some elitist boys, correct? Well in that case, I'm sure you'd agree when I say they can all fuck off :)

 

[Ban-jani]

Actually, i think we both are in agreement that I'm right here :p

As I have not argued the opposite position is correct. I've simply argued that the position you believe has not been proven yet. Which according to the bolded above you agree it hasn't.

On a side note, I'm in America so I'm not as familiar with the Eton boys. I am assuming those are some elitist boys, correct? Well in that case, I'm sure you'd agree when I say they can all fuck off :)

Eton College (/ˈiːtən/)[3] is a 13–18 independentboarding school and sixth form for boys in the parish of Eton, near Windsor in Berkshire, England. It was founded in 1440 by King Henry VI as Kynge's College of Our Ladye of Eton besyde Windesore (The King's College of Our Lady of Eton beside Windsor),[4] as a sister institution to King's College, Cambridge, making it the 18th-oldest Headmasters' and Headmistresses' Conference school.

It’s an upper-class establishment that has given us such charming and trustworthy chaps as Boris Johnson and David Cameron.

That’s sarcasm if you didn’t know.

 

[Dax777]

It’s an upper-class establishment that has given us such charming and trustworthy chaps as Boris Johnson and David Cameron.

That’s sarcasm if you didn’t know.

Ah! Lessons appreciated :)

 

[Ban-jani]

Ah! Lessons appreciated :)

No problem