Bigga
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on the Contrary the only paragraph 5 focused on Palin and even that was an attempt to implore you to research 'Palin standing on Principles'. Sarah Palin Wikipedia would be a decent start.
Again, positive is simply in the eyes of the beholder. Would I call Occasio pushing Justice Democrats 'Green Agenda' positive? Erh! I guess in that at least it spurred discussion. Would I consider it a sign of caring for the future? Not really. More a sign of AOC caring about her popularity. As I know and you know that AOC knows that plan isn't going anywhere.
As for her challenging Pelosi: Do you think that's positive? I'm not sure how much you know about the Justice Democrats: Kyle, Cenk, Zack and those folks. But the whole movement started as a copycat reaction to Trump's victory just like the Tea Party flank of the Rebuplican started in response to Obama's election.
The Justice Democrats took a play out of the Tea Party playbook by pledging to Primary 'Corporate Democrats' just like the Tea Party Republican pledge in 2010 to Primary RiNOs (Republicans in Name Only i.e centrist and reasonable Republicans) back thrn.
AOC and her crew of Radical Democrats challenging Pelosi is a salute to the Freedom Caucus crew (the victorious members of the TeaParty primariyng) who challenged John Boehner and thwarted any attempts he made at compromise btw 2013-2015 when he finally resigned out of frustration from dealing with those guys. I'm sure Ro, Raul, Pamila and the quadruplets are hoping to become the Democratic version of the Freedom Crew. A sad day for us is coming if you ask me.
This might be a feather in AOC's radical cap, but it's harmful to governing as a whole. I mean why do you think Congress has been getting less effective the last 10 years. Because radical Leftist and radical rightists have been primariyng reasonable Democrats and Republicans, and we are being left with people who lack the common sense required to compromise on issues.
Apologies for the longwinded history lesson. I guess topics I discuss often seem to bleed into each other here. :)
Er, yeah, thanks for the 'history lesson'. Not needed as I witnessed the birth of 'Justice Democrats' and understood why it started.
Many of the 'newer' Democrats were absolutely sick of the way the established Dems always compromised to the worst degree of the deal whilst the Reps laughed at them. What was the point in having two parties with a slither of difference between them, where they BOTH were paid by big business? What was the point in having BUSINESS dictate how people get to live in their environment?
Maybe it's you that needs the 'history lesson' on Flint, Michigan's polluted water?
Maybe it's you that needs the 'history lesson' about the year long battle of Akicita?
You may think centre ground politics is the bees' knees, but people are getting sick of no real clear politics by the people charged to represent the voter. They're much of a muchness, these politicians, who are mostly in it for self wealth and their own legacy.
It's a complete fooking joke and it's a disease catching worldwide.
Why do you think people march...?
I think Ocasio-Cortez is doing the right thing; whilst she engages with her ever growing population of followers, she's also taking to task corrupt lobbyists politicians in the committee hearings. She takes no Corporate backed money, so her focus is clearly for the people.
You're clearly a centrist who thinks that the policy of compromise STILL works!!
I've said it before and I'll say it again; we're at a stage where course correction is needed before centrists ever have a decent effect again.