Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

ChicagoBlue said:
As you well know, because of your inability (decision) to format your post as you did, it would require significant time and effort to respond to it in the depth it would require (if I wanted to waste that time), because of all the nonsense it contained.

Accordingly, I copied the one word from your words that summed up my own...Sigh.

I don’t know why you are choosing to be obtuse, nor why you are going to such great lengths to prove it to so many other people, but it certainly is exasperating...Sigh.

I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to achieve by ignoring the obvious truth and facts I’m providing you, but as ignorance is the path you have chosen, I will leave you to wallow in it...Sigh.
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Another cop out post.

Does nobody want to directly counter points or is it because you all cannot?
 
Ban-jani said:
What a cop out.

Why don’t you tell me what part of my post is incorrect?

You do realise the average age of a FTSE 100 CEO is 55 don’t you?

The UK workforce average is about 15, yes 15, years younger than that.

Why? Because you have to be the most experienced for the job and you need to work your arse off for decades.

At 55 you’ve likely been working 40 years in total, even if part time, you’ve likely been in a decent job since 25 and for the next 30 years you need to put everything you’ve got into reaching the top. You need to fight off the best competition there is, it’s dog eat dog.

In 1971 the percentage of the UK that was foreign born was 5%, there’s your BAME people in the top 1% now.

In 1991 it was 6%.

In 2011 it was 13%.

These people are catching up and are up against the rest of us in the rat race.

They haven’t been here long enough to make it to become a CEO in a leading industry.

Now either directly counter my points or do one.
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Mate there’s a whole fucking movement in multiple countries borne out of police brutality against minorities and now highlighting widespread inequality and prejudice.

You even said in your own post you have quotas you have to hit in your work place! Have you stopped to ask yourself why you have those quotas? And why there isn’t quotas for hiring white men?

Here’s a clue.... maybe because we don’t have equality in our society?

And your suggestion that every single CEO has worked their arse off to get where they are and what’s held women back is their uterus is absurd. It’s like an argument from the 1950s.

Anyway we are clearly poles apart so let’s just leave it. My fault for getting drawn back in.
 
bugsyblue said:
Mate there’s a whole fucking movement in multiple countries borne out of police brutality against minorities and now highlighting widespread inequality and prejudice.

You even said in your own post you have quotas you have to hit in your work place! Have you stopped to ask yourself why you have those quotas? And why there isn’t quotas for hiring white men?

Here’s a clue.... maybe because we don’t have equality in our society?

And your suggestion that every single CEO has worked their arse off to get where they are and what’s held women back is their uterus is absurd. It’s like an argument from the 1950s.

Anyway we are clearly poles apart so let’s just leave it. My fault for getting drawn back in.
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Yes and I think the movement is hysterical and over the top, especially in the UK.

There is a definite need to make changes in the US and the police can and are grotesque at times but it is the odd one and the wider issues that affect young black men, like 80% of them dying the hands of other young black men and 70% of black families having one parent, with this being the number one contributing factor to being unsuccessful in western society, is totally and utterly ignored.

Unfortunately in the US the police have to deal with guns, unlike here. When they turn up to a BAU scenario, they’ve at risk of being shot every time. Unfortunately some are racist and some are likely too nervous to act responsibly.

They need better background checks to weed out the racists and more training to deal with situations.

In the UK there isn’t a problem. Some areas have higher stop at search rates against black lads but the majority are in inner city London, in the black community, where young black lads stab young black lads and they need to find the knives.

The unpopular and difficult truth is in these areas where crime is an epidemic, it’s mostly black youths doing it and therefore they’re stopped more.

If there was a crime epidemic with weapons in rural Derbyshire, more white kids would be stopped.

More white people as a percentage die in police custody here than BAME anyway.

We have fucking quotas because of the vocal minority of people with your bloody views.

I disagree with them, the best person should get the job and we shouldn’t even see colour but liberals like you won’t let it go.

Companies have diversity schemes and quotas mostly for PR purposes, not a moral crusade. They don’t want the press to say “Barclays Bank has few black people in management jobs and no diversity scheme”. Their share price then plummets and they’re ripped to pieces.

It may be the best 5 people are white blokes, but then again you wouldn’t believe that.

The fact there are diversity quotas doesn’t mean there’s a problem, it’s supposedly done to ensure the company reflects society, not to actually make change, so it’s done retrospectively to ensure they’ve interviewed and hired enough minorities across the business.

They’re not doing it for the sake of minorities, they know they’re not racist, they’re doing it so they have it as an insurance policy if claims are made against the business.

Yes every single CEO for an industry leader has worked their arse off, without exception. You do not get there without being the best. You’re not just trying to gain approval from shareholders, a parent company or your colleagues, you’re convincing them you’re better experienced than everyone else at board level already.

It’s why the average age of CEO’s is 15 years higher than the average working age.

I think you lack a basic understanding of how people get into these top positions and why.

The reason women are lagging behind men in top positions is because THEY CHOOSE to start families, men aren’t forcing them to, many women want to raise children and in doing so, you lose a minimum whole year on your competition and that’s only if you have one child.

Why anyone thinks this is sexist or is a dig at women is beyond me, they’re doing the most important thing when they make this decision, bringing through the next generation.

Me hiring a few IT Directors isn’t as important as what my Mrs will do whilst on maternity leave.

Women on average CHOOSE to work less hours also. Many don’t want to be 100% competitive all the time, working 60 hours a week, for years, to beat people that will stop at nothing to beat them.

Some do but it’s a lot less of a percentage than men in those positions.

There’s always a why and ignoring it, putting your fingers in your ears and shouting “racist” isn’t going to help you.
 
she’s a favourite of mine as is Ilhan Omar, the unbelievable abuse Omar gets on Twitter go to a whole new level. It’s tiresome and honestly don’t know how she stays so calm.
 
bobmcfc said:
she’s a favourite of mine as is Ilhan Omar, the unbelievable abuse Omar gets on Twitter go to a whole new level. It’s tiresome and honestly don’t know how she stays so calm.
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Well, she proved all her haters wrong, yesterday, by smashing her opponent by 18% pts ahead as she did when she was first elected.

Again, another one who was outfunded by a huge degree. More money is clearly not working anymore for est Dems.

People want policies.
 
Bigga said:
Well, she proved all her haters wrong, yesterday, by smashing her opponent by 18% pts ahead as she did when she was first elected.

Again, another one who was outfunded by a huge degree. More money is clearly not working anymore for est Dems.

People want policies.
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I like Ilhan Omar, but she out raised and out spent her primary challenger. Not sure where you got this idea from? The data is easily available:
www.fec.gov

2020 Election United States House - Minnesota - District 05 - FEC.gov

Explore current and historic federal campaign finance data on the new fec.gov. Look at totals and trends, and see how candidates and committees raise and spend money. When you find what you need, export results and save custom links.
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cjn said:
I like Ilhan Omar, but she out raised and out spent her primary challenger. Not sure where you got this idea from? The data is easily available:
www.fec.gov

2020 Election United States House - Minnesota - District 05 - FEC.gov

Explore current and historic federal campaign finance data on the new fec.gov. Look at totals and trends, and see how candidates and committees raise and spend money. When you find what you need, export results and save custom links.
www.fec.gov www.fec.gov
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Corrected, yes. I was looking at other Progressive financial data where they've been outfunded at least 10 fold by opponents.

Omar has bucked the trend by about $100k.

Very rare for a progressive.
 
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