Alexis Sanchez

[inchy14]

If we're playing well and winning things it's amazing how even disruptive or greedy players are happy or at least content and quiet. The more we miss out to rivals when top players are available, the less likely it is we will win as much. So far there's been Hazard, RVP, Mbappe (to a CL rival) a now Sanchez. How many more will we miss just to appease fucking accountants? I thought we were meant to be the richest club in the world? About time we acted like it and created a dynasty and pushed the rags further behind while we're on top and have a manager capable of attracting almost any player to us.

RVP was a success for 1 season and then nothing, Mbappe was going for astronomical amounts and seemed to only want Paris, Hazard, whilst superb has been a bit hit and miss and Sanchez is another going for crazy figures. You seriously think we should be matching his supposed wages from the rags?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

United might even have done this with a long term strategy against us in mind. Drive prices up to ludicrous levels for top players. Get us to take a stand on not paying more than we regard as appropriate or when an agent hikes it further. United say we are okay to pay that and can afford it and respect the player more by doing so. They get hailed by Arsenal as a well run club for what anyone looking at this dispassionately seems suicidal. United call us and Chelsea too out - even though Chelsea were barely involved in this - so why? - as having been humiliated by United's love for the player and willingness to pay him what he is worth.

And all played out against the backdrop of Amazon filming us in a deal that United and Arsenal seem to have been upset over. Almost hoping it will highlight their victory in what otherwise would look to be a series about anything but United in any way.

This may be a strategy not so much to get Sanchez for United's benefit but a price they think worth paying if the long term consequence is all big players go to the traditional elite knowing only the likes of United will pay them 'what they are worth' - as in 'whatever fantasy sum it takes to get them'.

This might have little to do with Sanchez helping United or his loss destabilising us on the pitch and all to do with seeing us off as the go to choice for lets face it anyone with any player with brain who puts football ahead of big money - sadly, as they know, few and far between.

Sanchez could have helped himself play in a team he would suit and win things and do football in general one huge favour by taking less to get into the side he obviously wanted.

Instead he will be seen as just another mercenary not worth the big bucks unless he plays out of his skin every week and his legacy will be as far as most football fans are concerned that their ability to sign the best players has evaporated as they are all earmarked for whoever can pay them insane amounts.

One problem, we are prepared to pay more than anybody else in the world for the right players.

There's only so far even United can go to deploy a possible strategy of deliberately inflating the market.

This is still only Alexis Sanchez we are talking about here at the end of the day.

It's a good theory but Mourinho's comments challenging the board recently are probably not far from the truth?

He needs even more cash to buy off the top shelf because he can't compete with what Pep is building at half the cost.

The problem is, we already know spending huge amounts still doesn't guarantee absolute success.

 

[scousemanc]

I know this might not be popular, but I'd take either Rashford or Martial if they get their noses pushed out. Pep would turn them into top notch players.

Popular with me. Well, Martial anyway

 

[blueinsa]

Exactly, and from this position of strength we should have strengthened further, not let the worst and most dangerous of our rivals catch up a bit and get an ego boost.

How have they "caught" us up?

Do you get points for signing a player in January?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Yeah its not like our very young squad and a 12 point gap as it stands, top of our CL group, semi final of the league cup and in the next round of the FA cup has anyone worried about us for the foreseeable future lol.

Did i mention the best manager in the business and finances the envy of world football as well?

Get with the programme mate! The mood music for this thread is flap megamix ;-)

 

[Neville Kneville]

If he has a blinder in Russia they will be fine on him when the bigger teams come a calling who have no qualms in beating Manure at their own game but they will have lost the player they build their future on within 3 years of getting him and what would they have to show for it in Europe and also perhaps domestically.

Still though, his agent will want so much money, even the biggest teams will be reluctant. When you take away all the bullshit, he currently isn't the only player a top team can sign, who can do that position to the same standard, some have other things he hasn't got, & more will appear in the near future. No guarantee he comes out on top of the pile.

 

[The Riot Club]

RVP was gone after one season and would you really want Sanchez if the figures being bandied around are even some distance from being on the mark.

You don't think with the best manager in the premiership and perhaps in the top few going around we can't do better in the summer.

Patience is a virtue.

I hope so, but it feels like for the very best players we miss out or baulk at the fees.

What wil we need to spend in summer to maintain the gap, possibly replace a legendary goalscorer in Kun and who of that level is available? I don't think Dybala or Aubameyang are that great. Lewandowski maybe? Getting on though. Kane or Mbappe ( another one missed if PSG honour that buyout clause) were pretty much all there is.

 

[Goatmeal]

United might even have done this with a long term strategy against us in mind. Drive prices up to ludicrous levels for top players. Get us to take a stand on not paying more than we regard as appropriate or when an agent hikes it further. United say we are okay to pay that and can afford it and respect the player more by doing so. They get hailed by Arsenal as a well run club for what anyone looking at this dispassionately seems suicidal. United call us and Chelsea too out - even though Chelsea were barely involved in this - so why? - as having been humiliated by United's love for the player and willingness to pay him what he is worth.

And all played out against the backdrop of Amazon filming us in a deal that United and Arsenal seem to have been upset over. Almost hoping it will highlight their victory in what otherwise would look to be a series about anything but United in any way.

This may be a strategy not so much to get Sanchez for United's benefit but a price they think worth paying if the long term consequence is all big players go to the traditional elite knowing only the likes of United will pay them 'what they are worth' - as in 'whatever fantasy sum it takes to get them'.

This might have little to do with Sanchez helping United or his loss destabilising us on the pitch and all to do with seeing us off as the go to choice for lets face it anyone with any player with brain who puts football ahead of big money - sadly, as they know, few and far between.

Sanchez could have helped himself play in a team he would suit and win things and do football in general one huge favour by taking less to get into the side he obviously wanted.

Instead he will be seen as just another mercenary not worth the big bucks unless he plays out of his skin every week and his legacy will be as far as most football fans are concerned that their ability to sign the best players has evaporated as they are all earmarked for whoever can pay them insane amounts.

I think an element of what you write is correct.
What it will do is push Barca and real out of the ball park.
Messi and ronaldo will soon need replacing.
The trouble is you can’t buy all the top players. If the new Messi came along at £250m and £750k per week. If that player is the genuine article then rags would have to shift high earners to make space.
They already said the Sánchez deal won’t happen unless miki went out.
That tells me they are on the edge of player quantity and wages.
They won’t be able to go for the next one as easy and the next one may well be genuine world class quality

 

[Healdplace]

Thanks for your reply,Tolmie, and fair enough.

Just curious. Can you now explain yesterdays thunder video? This deal looks like it was dead days ago.

Is there any thunder out there or are we done this window?

Or was there still a feeling the deal might fall through as late as yesterday when you posted?

 

[domalino]

From a financial point of view.

But from the football point of view, if Utd don't nail it quickly on the pitch, the willy have their star player agitating for a move whilst they try to hold on for a fee few are willing to pay & the players agent asks for money even fewer are willing to pay, whilst the manager fart about in the middle. In other words, they become Arsenal.

They really need to start playing football & competing properly now, or it will be one hell of a bus crash over there.

They will never play football under Mourinho, he can't bring himself to do it and he knows they actually can't take teams on punch for punch anyway. It's all poised perfectly to go completely tits up for them with this contract extension about to be announced.