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Oh I was being ironic in my last reply, thought it was really clear. Seems way too much of a coincidence mate, he's messing you about imo.
I'll be very disappointed if he is. I'd rather him hand in a transfer request than do that tbh.

I dont know why Arsene is still peddling the shit about him still being hopeful that Alexis will sign a new contract. There's absolutely no fucking chance. If he is going to go, then they need to sell him now. If its gets done a few days before the window and we can't buy a potential replacement, the atmosphere will be literally venomous at the emirates. I really don't want that to happen.
 
I'll be very disappointed if he is. I'd rather him hand in a transfer request than do that tbh.

I dont know why Arsene is still peddling the shit about him still being hopeful that Alexis will sign a new contract. There's absolutely no fucking chance. If he is going to go, then they need to sell him now. If its gets done a few days before the window and we can't buy a potential replacement, the atmosphere will be literally venomous at the emirates. I really don't want that to happen.
Wenger is being a grade A prick as per usual, Sanchez is making it pretty god damned obvious he has no interest in being there. I reckon Arse are hoping we will bid and go public whereas we are actually keeping our powder dry and letting it play out at our end first.
 
Ok, I don't fully agree with that either.

My main question to you is, do you think that Arsenal will keep him if he doesn't sign a new deal by August 31st? They would be throwing away 50m + wages. Do you really see the owner and board doing this?

I don't know but let's do a little accounting because as mad as it sounds 50m may be too little.

Firstly losing Alexis probably means losing another season of CL footie meaning about 50m of less revenue. It also means we definitely finish behind you, decreasing our CL chances further.

But let's value a year of Alexis playing that aside. He'd probably be 150m player in the insane market on a long term deal if he was young, right? I mean Countinho's probably costing 120m, Mbappe isn't as proven but may have a higher ceiling and is priced around that. Supposedly Alexis wants 400k a week, so that's something like 21m a year.

So losing 50m for his prime year and 7m a year in wages is actually not too bad value. It's only a bit over twice as much as his wages on 400k a week and is he worth 30m per year in transfer fee in the current market? He possibly is. Especially if he plays his socks off to earn his next big deal.

It depends how Wenger values him and what his contingency plan is. I'd imagine Wenger would want cash left over after buying Lemar who's currently valued at 70m-80m. 50m doesn't cover that. Wenger generally never sells his best players for 1/4 of the world record fee, 1/2 sure, Anelka/Fabregas. Even 1/3 with RVP but never a 1/4. Even Nasri and Adebeyor went for 1/3 of the world record and they weren't our best player. For the record though Wenger didn't want to sell Nasri/RVP he wanted them to play out their final year but the money got for them is better than 50m today.

Now I do think Alexis is probably on strike right now, but if he's forced to stay and honour his contract he'll play well to get the best contract he can.
 
I'll be very disappointed if he is. I'd rather him hand in a transfer request than do that tbh.

I dont know why Arsene is still peddling the shit about him still being hopeful that Alexis will sign a new contract. There's absolutely no fucking chance. If he is going to go, then they need to sell him now. If its gets done a few days before the window and we can't buy a potential replacement, the atmosphere will be literally venomous at the emirates. I really don't want that to happen.

It says a lot that I'd be less surprised by that outcome than by Sanchez staying. Agree it would just clear things up if he did that.
 
I hope he's gone on strike just to see the utter meltdown on Arsenal TV.

I doubt he's on strike. He's been at the Conf Cup, I reckon that's why he isn't playing. Nothing to read into it

That said, I do think he wants out and I do think we'll get him
 
I'll be very disappointed if he is. I'd rather him hand in a transfer request than do that tbh.

I dont know why Arsene is still peddling the shit about him still being hopeful that Alexis will sign a new contract. There's absolutely no fucking chance. If he is going to go, then they need to sell him now. If its gets done a few days before the window and we can't buy a potential replacement, the atmosphere will be literally venomous at the emirates. I really don't want that to happen.

Bang on by there, as much as arsenal fans don't like it Sanchez hadn't signed a new contract then gone on strike. He's not kicked up a fuss, the most important thing for arsenal is to find the very best replacement they can and not focus too much hate on Sanchez. He's made a blantantly obvious by not signing a contract that he's had one eye on the door.
 
I would hope so, I can't see him faking injury when there is football to played.

He does a hell of a lot of weight training, not too much of a stretch to imagine he may have pulled something doing squats or the like.
The words straws & clutching come to mind mate... In no way am I saying Sanchez is nailed on to come to City, but the mounting evidence is damning that he wants out. Whether that's to PSG or City is another matter & in this mad transfer window, I wouldn't rule out him seeing out the final 12 months of his contract, but can you hand on heart say that the mounting evidence points to the contrary?
 
I don't know but let's do a little accounting because as mad as it sounds 50m may be too little.

Firstly losing Alexis probably means losing another season of CL footie meaning about 50m of less revenue. It also means we definitely finish behind you, decreasing our CL chances further.

But let's value a year of Alexis playing that aside. He'd probably be 150m player in the insane market on a long term deal if he was young, right? I mean Countinho's probably costing 120m, Mbappe isn't as proven but may have a higher ceiling and is priced around that. Supposedly Alexis wants 400k a week, so that's something like 21m a year.

So losing 50m for his prime year and 7m a year in wages is actually not too bad value. It's only a bit over twice as much as his wages on 400k a week and is he worth 30m per year in transfer fee in the current market? He possibly is. Especially if he plays his socks off to earn his next big deal.

The other side of that is what if Arsenal keep Sanchez but still don't make CL? If it was simply "keep Sanchez, pay his wages, forego the transfer fee, and make the CL" then you can make a very compelling argument for that. But they had him last year and didn't make it so there's still a significant chance of that happening again.

Also in that same vein, what is the likelihood of selling Sanchez to City and then finishing ahead of them? Very low. What is the likelihood of keeping Sanchez and finishing ahead of City? Certainly higher than the former scenario, but not particularly high in the aggregate.

Regarding Sanchez playing his socks off for a new deal- correct me if I'm wrong, but if he leaves on a free he can both demand high wages and a massive signing on fee in lieu of the transfer fee the team would have paid to sign him, right? He's going to be richer than God either way, but I don't think he necessarily has to play his socks off if he's getting that signing on fee. Someone will pay him silly money regardless of his upcoming season's performance, barring major injury.

The "keep Sanchez and make the CL" strategy would be far more sound if Arsenal had invested massively elsewhere but there are still several holes, others around them have invested more, and Ozil is also in a perilous contract situation. Add it all up and cashing in seems to be the smart move.
 
I'll be very disappointed if he is. I'd rather him hand in a transfer request than do that tbh.

I dont know why Arsene is still peddling the shit about him still being hopeful that Alexis will sign a new contract. There's absolutely no fucking chance. If he is going to go, then they need to sell him now. If its gets done a few days before the window and we can't buy a potential replacement, the atmosphere will be literally venomous at the emirates. I really don't want that to happen.
I think that's his plan leave it late and then say... "Oh darn look at that, just our luck, not enough time to buy someone. Oh well into the vault for next summer hey?"

The Rags bought Pogba in a season without CL football, Arsenal should cut their losses with Sanchez get a nice fee for him and add a considerable chunk to it for a big player... Dortmund have a few worth taking a punt on IMO, doubt Dybala would be possible(plus Italian clubs take the piss with transfer fees buying and selling).

On another note it's a shame Nasri left on bad terms too as he's still a decent player who would slot right in.
 
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I don't know but let's do a little accounting because as mad as it sounds 50m may be too little.

Firstly losing Alexis probably means losing another season of CL footie meaning about 50m of less revenue. It also means we definitely finish behind you, decreasing our CL chances further.

But let's value a year of Alexis playing that aside. He'd probably be 150m player in the insane market on a long term deal if he was young, right? I mean Countinho's probably costing 120m, Mbappe isn't as proven but may have a higher ceiling and is priced around that. Supposedly Alexis wants 400k a week, so that's something like 21m a year.

So losing 50m for his prime year and 7m a year in wages is actually not too bad value. It's only a bit over twice as much as his wages on 400k a week and is he worth 30m per year in transfer fee in the current market? He possibly is. Especially if he plays his socks off to earn his next big deal.

It depends how Wenger values him and what his contingency plan is. I'd imagine Wenger would want cash left over after buying Lemar who's currently valued at 70m-80m. 50m doesn't cover that. Wenger generally never sells his best players for 1/4 of the world record fee, 1/2 sure, Anelka/Fabregas. Even 1/3 with RVP but never a 1/4. Even Nasri and Adebeyor went for 1/3 of the world record and they weren't our best player. For the record though Wenger didn't want to sell Nasri/RVP he wanted them to play out their final year but the money got for them is better than 50m today.

Now I do think Alexis is probably on strike right now, but if he's forced to stay and honour his contract he'll play well to get the best contract he can.

Nearly any number in your post is a rather poor assumption. Must be on a wind up.
If your "little accounting" is standard within your club there are some tough times ahead.
Move on to the dippers' forum. You might be more lucky there.
 
I would hope so, I can't see him faking injury when there is football to played.

He does a hell of a lot of weight training, not too much of a stretch to imagine he may have pulled something doing squats or the like.

Good work. You'll certainly catch a few.
 
I don't know but let's do a little accounting because as mad as it sounds 50m may be too little.

Firstly losing Alexis probably means losing another season of CL footie meaning about 50m of less revenue. It also means we definitely finish behind you, decreasing our CL chances further.

But let's value a year of Alexis playing that aside. He'd probably be 150m player in the insane market on a long term deal if he was young, right? I mean Countinho's probably costing 120m, Mbappe isn't as proven but may have a higher ceiling and is priced around that. Supposedly Alexis wants 400k a week, so that's something like 21m a year.

So losing 50m for his prime year and 7m a year in wages is actually not too bad value. It's only a bit over twice as much as his wages on 400k a week and is he worth 30m per year in transfer fee in the current market? He possibly is. Especially if he plays his socks off to earn his next big deal.

It depends how Wenger values him and what his contingency plan is. I'd imagine Wenger would want cash left over after buying Lemar who's currently valued at 70m-80m. 50m doesn't cover that. Wenger generally never sells his best players for 1/4 of the world record fee, 1/2 sure, Anelka/Fabregas. Even 1/3 with RVP but never a 1/4. Even Nasri and Adebeyor went for 1/3 of the world record and they weren't our best player. For the record though Wenger didn't want to sell Nasri/RVP he wanted them to play out their final year but the money got for them is better than 50m today.

Now I do think Alexis is probably on strike right now, but if he's forced to stay and honour his contract he'll play well to get the best contract he can.

Also, keeping Alexis doesn't guarantee CL as we saw last season.

I do think it's bad value because Alexis can suffer a major injury and there is too much risk involved. This is why Pogba was sold last summer and Mbappe will most likely be sold this summer, keeping them could result in better value next summer but they run the risk of a loss of form or major injury that could decrease value.

Wenger has a lot of power but he doesn't make all the decisions, he is a puppet. Ultimately Kroenke and the board will decide if Alexis is sold or not. I'm not buying this 1/2, 1/3 the world record talk. Nobody is paying 80-100m for a player in the last year of their contract as good as they are.

Kroenke will be looking at this situation from a business point of view. They didn't get CL with him. Keeping him means constant media speculation about his future further damaging team morale. Keeping him means losing 50m+, wouldn't even be surprised if City pay close to 60m. Sanchez gives you a better chance for CL football but the cons far outweigh the pros for keeping him.

Add to that Ozil & Ox in similar situations, that's 100m+ in transfer fees. From a business point of view the best thing would be to sell all 3, reinvest the money in two class players and go from there. It doesn't look like any of them will sign a new deal.

No player is bigger than a club. Players get sold, new ones get bought and fans move on. If Sergio was in the same situation and wanted out I would hope City would sell him and not force him to stay, only to lose him on a free, makes no sense at all. Especially when you consider he could easily still end up going to a rival.

It's pretty obvious Sanchez is making his intentions clear. City have not bid yet and it's not even necessary to bid yet as the end of the window nears our postion gets stronger. City will probably make a bid in a week or two , the press will be briefed about it, 40m maybe. Arsenal will reject it immediately, Sanchez will put in a transfer request and he will get sold near the end of the window. This is how I see it playing out. Arsenal and Wenger will claim they had no choice but to sell, Sanchez will be public enemy #1, and everyone is happy. Sanchez will get booed often but he won't care as he smiles and waves to the City fans while he lifts the PL trophy.

FWIW I think Arsenal can sell Sanchez, buy Lemar and maybe one more player or two. Your new left back looks great and is perfect for the PL. With spurs having wembely, rags not improving much, Liverpool as well and Chelsea having such a thin squad, I would say Arsenal have a great chance of making top 4. Sell the players that want out, buy ones that want to give everything for the badge and you'll be better off.
 
If they keep Alexis, they forego maybe 60m as a transfer fee. Using the amortisation principle, that would make him the mist expensive player ever. Mbappe at 150m over 5 years, for example, would be 30m per season. Forget the wages...the loss of the fee alone would place Wenger as the biggest spender on one player ever. Wenger won't do that and neither would his board sanction it.

A move is on.
 
All this talk of Arsenal qualifying for Champions League, I think they'll win the Europa without Alexis, no problem.
 
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