'All Or Nothing' - discussion of documentary

Episode 6 - When Pep meets the Sheikh note what's on the Coffee table. Press cuttings of every single Manchester City season . I so want that maasive book. The page it was open at was Manchester City's 1936-37 season title win.
 
SouthStandStander said:
Anyone know who the guy is in episode 8 in the changing toom that has his face censored. He's also on stage at the parade and again has his face censored
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I mentioned it earlier in the thread, he's an asian-looking fella, fairly sure he's the owner, or high up in the ELS limo company that do a lot of the transport for City. His face was unblurred and visible in the paintballing segment in an earlier episode,



EDIT: His face clearly visible in that same shot on Victoria's instagram, so not sure what the deal is.

 
Watched it all today. Apart from the 7th episode; yes, I know I should have watched it but I couldn't. I'm not a masochist.
Loved it, great viewing.
 
Absolutely loved it. The biggest thing I'll get from this is how much grassroots is still in football. Sounds a daft thing to say but we've all been sanitised in a way to think it's all run differently if that makes any sense.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
I would too, my point being to say it refectled on him poorly is a bit ott wouldn’t you say? His job isn’t tactics and analysis. As a player involved in watching team mates not follow runs and concede goals you can see his frustrations in saying “we stopped running” he may be right, he may be wrong, reflected poorly? Do me a favour
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IMO it reflects poorly because Pep is telling him his ideas about why we lost a match are bullshit. How thinking winning individual battles is the problem is completely and utterly wrong.

To be the one player shouting about us losing because we lost individual battles and have the manager to say pretty much "no, that's bullshit, your idea of keeping it simple is wrong" in front of everyone isn't a great moment for him, and then Pep has to tell the squad not to focus on the bullshit idea of football being simple, but to keep doing the complicated stuff they've been doing all season.

Delph is basically falling back on the old dinosaur english 'stick it up em' approach when we lose, and after 2 years you'd hope that he'd be thinking more like Pep.

Hopefully he'll have learned from it. Overall I think he comes across really well in the series.
 
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TonyM said:
After watching most of the episodes I now fear that Peps time with us and our success is fleeting. The intensity is so high that it surely will burn out soon. IMO we have this season and next season at most before it’ll change significantly.

I hope we are planning ahead.
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And there’s me thinking Pep’s intensity was already legendary. That’s why he took a year off after Barca.

He was never likely to stay at City for a long time and Ferran and Txiki know that.

I would not be surprised if he takes an international job next, possibly after a break, and then quits management.
 
Episode 7 really hard to watch. The derby still haunts me as to how we threw that away. Love how passionate Delphy is he came across really good in each clip for me.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Episode 6 - When Pep meets the Sheikh note what's on the Coffee table. Press cuttings of every single Manchester City season . I so want that maasive book. The page it was open at was Manchester City's 1936-37 season title win.
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I've got that book or one very similar.
I'll dig it out and let you know what it's called.
 
johnmc said:
As a city fan it’s essential viewing obviously. It’s good enough to keep you watching. And maybe watch again.

But overall I wanted a bit more from it. Realistically it’s a season review dvd with a few extras. Whilst amazon clearly had access all areas I think the club vetoed what could be shown. A few scenes show Pep talking to players at the white board but from behind it so it was out of view what exactly he was telling them.

Given it was 8 episodes I’m not sure we learnt that much we didn’t already know. And fair enough it’s not really made for City fans more as a sporting documentary anyone can watch but take the game footage out that is fans already know and you aren’t left with that much. The dressing room stuff is a great insight but makes up maybe half an hour in total. The Silva with Mateo video whilst amazing was released already.

The fan interviews didn’t really add to the program. Two women talking about how the sterling song used to be Lescotts and whether they miss him. Didn’t see the point.

Some gold in there, a lot of what we knew already and a bit of meh.

7/10 overall
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Yep, agree with all if this. Too many episodes, perhaps. It'll probably look better in about 20 years when we're fighting relegation again and we can all reminisce about the glory days.



Lol!

Also, the subtitling was hilarious. Brian Diaz?
 
comment on bbc website:
"20. Posted by Caveman49 on 18 Aug 2018 22:31

I'm a Birmingham fan and I have watched all 8 episodes - it is a fantastic sporting documentary and I loved seeing how the other half live.
At one point I even thought I'd sooner sit in the Man City laundry than St Andrews as even that was incredibly impressive.
But sadly it shows that teams like mine are a billion miles away, and all we can do is dream about another Sheikh talking interest"
I hope many other football fans watch it and appreciate it for what it is. I noticed Football Focus discussed it today, but I have not heard a single comment on Skysports or Talksport (surprised? NO!!)
 
Apologies if mentioned, but regarding Ben Kingsley, he went to school in Manchester (including Manchester Grammar, just across Platt Fields from Maine Rd) so may possibly be a Blue? If not, still a local connection.
 
johnmc said:
As a city fan it’s essential viewing obviously. It’s good enough to keep you watching. And maybe watch again.

But overall I wanted a bit more from it. Realistically it’s a season review dvd with a few extras. Whilst amazon clearly had access all areas I think the club vetoed what could be shown. A few scenes show Pep talking to players at the white board but from behind it so it was out of view what exactly he was telling them.

Given it was 8 episodes I’m not sure we learnt that much we didn’t already know. And fair enough it’s not really made for City fans more as a sporting documentary anyone can watch but take the game footage out that is fans already know and you aren’t left with that much. The dressing room stuff is a great insight but makes up maybe half an hour in total. The Silva with Mateo video whilst amazing was released already.

The fan interviews didn’t really add to the program. Two women talking about how the sterling song used to be Lescotts and whether they miss him. Didn’t see the point.

Some gold in there, a lot of what we knew already and a bit of meh.

7/10 overall
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This sums up my views of the show perfectly - basically a season review with very little extra. In a way I'm glad no 'secrets' were revealed but also disappointed for the same reason. 'Ice Road Truckers meets the Premier League'
 
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