American owners a serious threat to our game ?

[mattcity5]

Its a training ground. All modern clubs have top training grounds. Its a one off contract to a construction firm, and thats its only benefit to society.

Its not like its open the the public, nor is it a public service like a hospital or library.

Your interpretation of investment is bizarre.

The CFA is an investment, it's producing a lot of good footballers, which helps bring money into the club and players through to the first team. It's also at the heart of the community and often used by local youngsters.

https://www.mancity.com/news/club/young-player-development-program-manchester-city-63769735

And it isn't just a training centre, there is a lot more to the investment in the area. Plus the local housing that has been built.

City Football Academy opens in East Manchester

The City Football Academy (CFA), Manchester City Football Club’s youth development and first team training centre in the heart of East Manchester, was today formally opened by former City manager and the Club’s most decorated captain, Tony Book.

www.pitchcare.com

City owner and council to build 6,000 new homes in £1bn deal

More than 6,000 new homes are to set to be built in once rundown parts of Manchester thanks to a £1bn deal with Manchester City’s Middle East owners

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Anyway. Enough about that. It's all out there if you want to read. I'd hope that Newcastle may see improvements also, as god knows there's no point waiting for the Government to do anything to help the North.

So with your moaning about agent fees and player wages, I'm guessing you're disappointed about Arsenal buying Declan Rice?

Or is that "investment" (I'll call it that because it's spending money on something that you hope will bring you returns) okay because your owner is American and not an Arab?

 

[Gazza]

I didn't mention countries at all.

I asked if money being taken out of the game is good, or if investment into the game is good.

You seem to think that just means agent fees and wages. It really doesn't, but if the money is coming in via commercial routes and prize money, then I would prefer the players be rewarded than the owners, yes.

This is investment.



This is what happens when owners are in it for themselves.

'nited's new training ground ;-

 

[VOOMER]

No I dont think Saudi owners who pay inflated wages to already obscenely paid footballers is good for the sport. Explain to me the benefits to society of Mbappe getting paid 1 billion annually.

Before all this talk of Arabian teams in the CL, or playing PL games outside England, was football shit? Did we really need a foreign prince to pump money into the game to make it good?

Because you do realise the 'investment' you speak of is basically player wages and agent fees. Thats were the 'investment goes'.

Judging by your response its nice to see that you agree that owners who take money out of football are bad for the game. Bravo sir, bravo.

 

[VOOMER]

Its a training ground. All modern clubs have top training grounds. Its a one off contract to a construction firm, and thats its only benefit to society.

Its not like its open the the public, nor is it a public service like a hospital or library.

Your interpretation of investment is bizarre.

Really, yours is bang average , as are the rest of the red tops.

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

Sounds like something a woke hipster say. You could get a job as a writer at the Gaurdian by suggesting Americans are bad for football and the likes of Bin Salman are its saviours.

Well done. Have a free latte, ill make a donation to Shameema Begum in your name

Have you actually read the Guardian recently? You think it's full of positive coverage of City and Newcastle?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

A massive fallacy that is rooted in the belief that Arabs are better owners than Americans. Its just not true and the belief Newcastle will automatically be successful because they are owned by Arabs is incorrect.

Most of your success has to do with Pep, who like he did at Barcelona with really good players, raised standards very high.

Do you honestly think The American owned clubs think they couldn't beat you if Kompany is manager?

Right now, absolutely its pep.... wtf.

But what I see is city and nufc laying the groundwork for domination long term.

At utd, arse, lfc is for short term PROFITS, not to grow the club.

And that's why pep wanted this project, to come to City... there's no ROI to fulfill. He can buy the players he wants, he can try inverted fullbacks, experiment with players. He could not achieve that when the owners are baying for immediate success.

If you know anything about City its that the investment had been throughout. Training grounds, youth, women, team, everything. Yank clubs tend to just buy players.


It's short termism v the long game

 

[Newman Noggs]

Before all this talk of Arabian teams in the CL, or playing PL games outside England, was football shit? Did we really need a foreign prince to pump money into the game to make it good?

This is the core of your argument. Football wasn't shit for you whilst arsenal, united, liverpool and chelsea were guaranteed Champions League money season in, season out. For the rest of the clubs in the PL, it was shit but, before the anti-competition "FFP" rules were introduced, there was, at least, hope of investment from a wealthy benefactor of the sort that had been the route to success already taken by those 4 clubs (and Blackburn).

For every other club, what the "foreign prince" "pumping" money into the game ( known as investing, to the rest of us) has done has introduced more competition so that realistically 6 teams are now playing for the 4 places your clubs had stitched up. So your clubs (and, let's be honest, those clubs are 4 quarters of the same Arse) invented FFP to prevent investment by any more clubs that might threaten to make it more "shit'" for you but better for anyone else.

Meanwhile, the PL product goes from strength to strength as a direct result of the increased competition. You can thank Sheikh Mansour later.

 

[Bigg Bigg Blue]

A massive fallacy that is rooted in the belief that Arabs are better owners than Americans. Its just not true and the belief Newcastle will automatically be successful because they are owned by Arabs is incorrect.

Most of your success has to do with Pep, who like he did at Barcelona with really good players, raised standards very high.

Do you honestly think The American owned clubs think they couldn't beat you if Kompany is manager?

Our last 3 managers have won the Premier league so it's not all down to Pep.

 

[M16 citeh]

This is the core of your argument. Football wasn't shit for you whilst arsenal, united, liverpool and chelsea were guaranteed Champions League money season in, season out. For the rest of the clubs in the PL, it was shit but, before the anti-competition "FFP" rules were introduced, there was, at least, hope of investment from a wealthy benefactor of the sort that had been the route to success already taken by those 4 clubs (and Blackburn).

For every other club, what the "foreign prince" "pumping" money into the game ( known as investing, to the rest of us) has done has introduced more competition so that realistically 6 teams are now playing for the 4 places your clubs had stitched up. So your clubs (and, let's be honest, those clubs are 4 quarters of the same Arse) invented FFP to prevent investment by any more clubs that might threaten to make it more "shit'" for you but better for anyone else.

Meanwhile, the PL product goes from strength to strength as a direct result of the increased competition. You can thank Sheikh Mansour later.

Same old tired crap from fans of the old top 4

 

[dario2739]

This is the core of your argument. Football wasn't shit for you whilst arsenal, united, liverpool and chelsea were guaranteed Champions League money season in, season out. For the rest of the clubs in the PL, it was shit but, before the anti-competition "FFP" rules were introduced, there was, at least, hope of investment from a wealthy benefactor of the sort that had been the route to success already taken by those 4 clubs (and Blackburn).

For every other club, what the "foreign prince" "pumping" money into the game ( known as investing, to the rest of us) has done has introduced more competition so that realistically 6 teams are now playing for the 4 places your clubs had stitched up. So your clubs (and, let's be honest, those clubs are 4 quarters of the same Arse) invented FFP to prevent investment by any more clubs that might threaten to make it more "shit'" for you but better for anyone else.

Meanwhile, the PL product goes from strength to strength as a direct result of the increased competition. You can thank Sheikh Mansour later.

Add to that, that out CL win was the most watched final in over 5 years apparently too.